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I don't know what all these people are talking about or if they even spoke to an actual dealer themselves when ordering theres (assuming anyone who answered your question is also waiting for their new Fusiion)...but I, like you ordered a new 2013 Ford Fusion Hybrid. I ordered mine the last week of August and it cost around $40K for it to be fully loaded. My dealer said typically it takes between 8 to 10 weeks..maybe an extra 2 weeks for a hybrid. They said they will let me know when they have a build date. Also, my dealer mentioned that right now Ford is taking personal orders first over dealer orders so that will speed up the process for those who ordered early like we did. Week 1 = Orders go in Monday...Arrive at Ford on Wednesday. At this point your dealer will have an official printout from Ford to give you a copy of with your ordered configuration. Week 2/3 = Customer can change their mind on any options such as seat type, car color, or cancel the order entirely as the order sits on Fords desk awaiting the next step. Week 4/5 = Ford checks the actual order to see if the car is worth building. If the car is too demanding and won't sell on dealer floors in case you cancel the order then it will be rejected and your dealer will tell you so (rare case senerio). If the car seems to be a typical, sellable configuration then it gets the green light for parts to be ordered and prepared for building your new car. Week 6/7 = In this time frame you are given a build date as soon as its available and the car will be built. It only takes less than a day to build the actual car. Week 8/9/10 = Car is tested, prepared, shipped, arrives at dealership, and is dealer tested and inspected. You take it home. That is the typical time frame I was told and the order of events that take place. Due to the Fusion having a setback in production this year due to quality issues that had to be refined so the final product was perfect orders may be a little slower to get due to production starting later than originally expected. But I'm expecting mine either towards the end of October or in November sometime. Any earlier then that would be an amazing miracle!...one I'd gladly welcome!

Oh they are getting a 2013 Ford Fusion, but I accept that they won't be getting them until later this year after it's been tested by the EPA and all that jazz. Thanks guys.

If it was a fusion though. It's not improbable. There are a handful of people with them including the current American Idol winner from this year who won one. Plus there is a Governor with one and I'm sure other select people with one..One was a gift in a Ford Sweepstakes...so there are people with them in this country despite it not being in production for the general public yet...so if you were at the right place at the right time and saw an actual 2013 Ford Fusion then awesome!! What color was it btw?

Can you post the link to a Ford Dealer website that is taking orders and actual money to reserve one right now? I've called many and none of them say they've "gotten the memo" yet. I think only certain dealerships around the country are taking orders and they could just be doing their own thing and not officially taking money that goes to Ford's bank.

I made the correction, thanks.

I agree with the fact that Ford will most likely make HID standard next year or so but I highly doubt LED headlights would come anytime soon to the Fusion because of Ford choosing to go minimal on headlights because they are getting too big, to complicated, and taking away from the actual look of the car by distracting vision and mindset to the light themselves as to whether a car is beautiful or not. I can understand this fundamental way of thinking when it comes to "revolutionizing" the car today to something away from what other car companies are making as a standard, but you're right- ford could of offered HIDs and maintain their minimalistic look of the 2013 Fusion, but once again...HIDs are not standard in a majority of cars and because of this they are NOT mainstream yet and are more apart of a niche population of those who have experienced HIDs and love them, or people who just like the technology. So they are not a dealbreaker by any means BECAUSE you can just get them yourself for less. Speaking of getting HIDs for less...Have you seen how much "optional" options cost when building a new car? Usually between $795 to $1000. I can almost garuntee that if Ford made HIDs an option it would cost nearly $1000 which means you're spending around $930 more to have them factory installed for you than they are worth. If it makes you feel more comfortable spending nearly $1000 to have HIDs factory installed at time of purchase than spending $70 to have them professionally installed the same weekend then hopefully the 2014 Fusion will have that option for you...otherwise if you want non-halogens you'll want the Lincoln MKZ and if you don't then it's not anything to be worried about with the 2013 Fusion. Lastly, speaking of the Lincoln MKZ (Ford owned) The new Lincoln is a drastic new redesign also and as Ford/Lincoln's "luxury" car brand they had to save some attractive technology for that vehicle as well and the inclusion of LEDs, heated steering wheel and back seats, etc. have been added to the MKZ and most likely taken out of the Fusion to seperate the two cars so there are fundamental changes between the models (especially since the cost of the Lincoln is thousands more than the Fusion and they need to justify that cost by making it seem like you're getting something you really want for that money). So yeah, it's all marketing strategy and stuff but believe me...they knew they could include HIDs in the 2013 Fusion but they didn't for A NUMBER OF REASONS...in the end..If you're going to keep a car for 10+ years...the headlights, once again, should not be a dealbreaker...anything you can easily do yourself for cheap should never be a dealbreaker. Having a moonroof, type of engine and transmission, presence of heated/cooled seats, and maybe the elite packages of tech the fusion comes with are all dealbreakers....HIDs, selection of alloy wheels, and push button start/stop...ehhh...not so much. Get a car you love. No car will have everything so all you can do is come as close as possible to your dream, or ideal, car. Once again, if HIDs are a dealbreaker for you then this is NOT the car for you. I know a lot of people are interested in the titanium fusion though so i hope they give you all more seating options by time of purchase. I for one am getting the Hybrid ^.^

2013 Ford Fusion > 2013 Lincoln MKZ That is all

Jesus all this HID talk is starting to bug the freak out of me. You know I looked at Fords entire lineup and most of their vehicles don't even offer HIDs. Then I looked at other car manufacterers like Toyota, Honda, Nissan, etc. and they don't really offer HIDs either and if they do it's on like one or two of their car models. So, I think the idea of HIDs are consumer demand for them is really driving the industry at this point...not the other way around of cars offering HIDs and consumers liking it. Because of this you people need to calm down and realize that HIDs will be standard anywhere in the next 2-4 years and stop making it a breaking point when buying a new car. IT IS BECAUSE OF CARS NOT COMING WITH HIDS THAT HID DIY KITS ARE AVAILABLE FOR CHEAP. Instead of passing up a good car, go buy an HID kit for $70 bucks and shut up. Jesus... Months ago people were dying to get their hands on this car at this site and now all I hear is no HID, black only seats, and no manual transmission bickering. Well guess what! People, options change and there actually is a manual transmission to choose from now! And as the people above me said on the Ford site it says that OPTIONS AND PRICES WILL CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE. Having a manual car option was a huge change and the car is months from coming out so small things like changing the interior seats of the fusion titanium and upgradeable lights may happen. So be patient and stop looking for excuses to pass this car up because of BS options no one would take into consideration when buying a new car anyway...I mean seriously? HID lights as a breaking point? This one woman in another post on here said not having an oil pan was a dealbreaker. Give me a break. You have a car you drive right now without HIDs most likely and you aren't taking the bus instead are you?

Same here. I fully loaded my hybrid and its aroudn $36K. I'm fine with that though as this is my first car and I'll have it for at least 7 years.

From what I heard the cooling comes from fans inside the seat that blow through the perforations. On the actual MyFord Touch screen there is a button for heat level adjustment and Seat AC adjustment...I don't know how they are cooled, but its an option on screen.

Firstly, you are correct in that there are no air cooled or vented seats, HOWEVER, the seats are HEATED and COOLED regardless and those are settings you use using MyFord Touch. Second, of all LED headlights use very low energy consumption, however they have high production costs, produce low amounts of generated power, and a high temperature is created around adjacent assemblies. Small LEDs alone don't produce very much light, HOWEVER when clustered together with lots you get brighter light. As someone stated before this is easier done on the back where you just need to see the brake light but if you need to shine anywhere from 1,500 to over 3,000 lumens into the night in front of you to see where you are going this can be VERY costly in a car that already has expensive technology in it at (some could argue) giveaway prices so that cost would pass on to you. Yes, LEDs headlights may be on other cars but those are notably "cheaper" cars when it comes to what you are getting with the car for the price. With the 2013 Fusion you are getting class-breaking, leading technology for priices other cars are selling at without this tech so they can afford to put LED headlights in (such as the Prius). And what about HIDs? Well Xenon lights are widely becoming popular because of their longer lifetime than halogen lights (although halogens have a very long lifetime of about 1,000 hours under normal conditions) and the fact that they are more efficient than halogen as they use less power. They also provide better visibility which is one of the main reasons people like them. HOWEVER, they create too much glare and thus, can be a potential problem for incoming traffic and they have very high costs. Once again with the 2013 Fusion you are sacrificing some of the "basics" you may find in other cars because you are getting technology, style, and an entire well-developed elegant car package for less than $30,000. If headlights are the deal-breaker for you then this really isn't the car for you in the first place! This car has so much going for it and HID kids can be purchased for less than $100 online and installed for you professionally so I wouldn't pass up an already award-winning car for something like that. Lastly, the 2013 Ford Fusion is all about being "green" and saving money for ford through the production process thus those savings are passed down to you. The carpets for example are made of at least 25 recycled plastic bottles and they are even researching how to use recycled money in parts of the car. They spend a lot of money on research and development to make their cars not only more elegant than the competition, but more environmentally friendly through the production process. Xenon and other HIDs contain possible harmful materials that if not disposed properly could be environmentally unfriendly so not using them would go with the whole "green ideal" Ford is going with. I agree with you though, if Titanium is going to cost that much then they should have more options for the public...but I think the limited options may be a production facility restraint. Using one facility to basically produce 3 gas fusions, 1 hybrid, and 1 plugin (and those already have many different configurations) they probably have to cut back somewhere. I still don't know if thats a viable excuse, but nonetheless I'm getting the hybrid :D Here is a picture of an Audi with LED headlights. Notice the clusters as I mentioned above required to produce an ideal amount of light equal to one bulb. Looks like an insect! Because of this full LED headlights are still not common yet, but having them as Daytime running lights or rear lights where they just need to be seen and brightness is not really cared for they are useful and seen in the 2013 Fusion. BTW, LEDs are the only source of light used inside the vehicle from overheard lights to dash lights to button lights!

Firstly, you are correct in that there are no air cooled or vented seats, HOWEVER, the seats are HEATED and COOLED regardless and those are settings you use using MyFord Touch. Second, of all LED headlights use very low energy consumption, however they have high production costs, produce low amounts of generated power, and a high temperature is created around adjacent assemblies. Small LEDs alone don't produce very much light, HOWEVER when clustered together with lots you get brighter light. As someone stated before this is easier done on the back where you just need to see the brake light but if you need to shine anywhere from 1,500 to over 3,000 lumens into the night in front of you to see where you are going this can be VERY costly in a car that already has expensive technology in it at (some could argue) giveaway prices so that cost would pass on to you. Yes, LEDs headlights may be on other cars but those are notably "cheaper" cars when it comes to what you are getting with the car for the price. With the 2013 Fusion you are getting class-breaking, leading technology for priices other cars are selling at without this tech so they can afford to put LED headlights in (such as the Prius). And what about HIDs? Well Xenon lights are widely becoming popular because of their longer lifetime than halogen lights (although halogens have a very long lifetime of about 1,000 hours under normal conditions) and the fact that they are more efficient than halogen as they use less power. They also provide better visibility which is one of the main reasons people like them. HOWEVER, they create too much glare and thus, can be a potential problem for incoming traffic and they have very high costs. Once again with the 2013 Fusion you are sacrificing some of the "basics" you may find in other cars because you are getting technology, style, and an entire well-developed elegant car package for less than $30,000. If headlights are the deal-breaker for you then this really isn't the car for you in the first place! This car has so much going for it and HID kids can be purchased for less than $100 online and installed for you professionally so I wouldn't pass up an already award-winning car for something like that. Lastly, the 2013 Ford Fusion is all about being "green" and saving money for ford through the production process thus those savings are passed down to you. The carpets for example are made of at least 25 recycled plastic bottles and they are even researching how to use recycled money in parts of the car. They spend a lot of money on research and development to make their cars not only more elegant than the competition, but more environmentally friendly through the production process. Xenon and other HIDs contain possible harmful materials that if not disposed properly could be environmentally unfriendly so not using them would go with the whole "green ideal" Ford is going with. I agree with you though, if Titanium is going to cost that much then they should have more options for the public...but I think the limited options may be a production facility restraint. Using one facility to basically produce 3 gas fusions, 1 hybrid, and 1 plugin (and those already have many different configurations) they probably have to cut back somewhere. I still don't know if thats a viable excuse, but nonetheless I'm getting the hybrid :D Here is a picture of an Audi with LED headlights. Notice the clusters as I mentioned above required to produce an ideal amount of light equal to one bulb. Looks like an insect! Because of this full LED headlights are still not common yet, but having them as Daytime running lights or rear lights where they just need to be seen and brightness is not really cared for they are useful and seen in the 2013 Fusion. BTW, LEDs are the only source of light used inside the vehicle from overheard lights to dash lights to button lights!

-------NEWLY UPDATED INFORMATION BELOW------- Now the official Ford website clearly shows the prices below as the temporary prices of the new 2013 Fusion line. Those prices are have been submitted to the National Automobile Dealers Association and can now be considered the final pricing (not surprised). What does this mean everyone? These are (as of right now) the official MSRP base prices for each of the trim levels below. I should Also note that the $795 destination fee is already included in those prices. I've updated them below to reflect this easier: MSRP Total Pricing: Model 4dr Sdn S FWD = $22,495 ($21,700 + $795 Destination Fee) Model 4dr Sdn SE FWD = $24,495 ($23,700 + $795 Destination Fee) Model 4dr Sdn Hybrid FWD = $27,995 ($27,200 + $795 Destination Fee) Model 4dr Sdn Titanium FWD = $30,995 ($30,200 + $795 Destination Fee) Model 4dr Sdn Titanium AWD = $32,995 ($32,200 + $795 Destination Fee) There you have it people. Those are the base prices (with all standard options for each trim only) for each of the major trims. It's good to see the prices haven't increased since they originally mentioned the prices a week or two ago and it is also good to see the destination fee was already included. Now those are the official MSRPs that dealers should charge you for, but are they the actual prices you should actually be paying for? Probably not. For those prices you want to look at the actual Invoice cost which is the cost the dealers are paying for the vehicle themselves. Knowing this information greatly helps you when it comes to bargaining for a new vehicle and knowing just how low you should really go instead of spewing out random discounts at time of purchase. This information is below (you're welcome!) Once again, these prices are for the base trims with no optional components added on. Please keep in mind the invoice prices below may not be what you actually should pay as that true and ultimate pricing depends on the area you are living in and how popular the car is in your area. But these values can be used nontheless to show you the true cost of the vehicle without taking into consideration your geographic location (which usually doesn't matter anyway when a new car is released as 95% of all dealers will sell it at the same cost initially). Invoice Total Pricing: Model 4dr Sdn S FWD = $21,030 ($20,235 + $795 Destination Fee) - Difference between MSRP of $1,465 Model 4dr Sdn SE FWD = $22,658 ($21,863 + $795 Destination Fee) - Difference between MSRP of $1,837 Model 4dr Sdn Hybrid FWD = $25,887 ($25,092 + $795 Destination Fee) - Difference between MSRP of $2,108 Model 4dr Sdn Titanium FWD = $28,655 ($27,860 + $795 Destination Fee) - Difference between MSRP of $2,340 Model 4dr Sdn Titanium AWD = $30,500 ($29,705 + $795 Destination Fee) - Difference between MSRP of $2,495 Now on to the information about optionals. This post would go on forever if I listed every possible option for each trim and the MSRP vs. Invoice comparisons for them so instead I will give you a link to the official page at NADA where you can have the fun of seeing the prices I listed above, customizing your own vehicle and seeing the prices for yourself. There are a few things you should know before I give you the link however: The configurator on NADA includes options for your Fusion the official Ford configurator does not. This means you can further customize your order deeper and closer to what you will when Ford officially starts selling the vehicles. And with that here is the link to customize your new 2013 Ford Fusion. Enjoy!!! Click Me -------PREVIOUS INFORMATION BELOW------- I did the hard work of seeing truly what is only offered with the Titanium model you can not get with the SE or SE Hybrid model and the features below are all you would be missing: Aluminum Scruff Plates - Front Doors Aluminum Sport Pedals Ambient Lighting Decklid Spoiler Dual Integrated Bright Exhaust Intelligent Access with Push Button Start Sony Premium Audio w/12 Speakers & HD Radio That is it. Most of those aren't anything to brag about anyway unless apperance means that much to you over more than double the city MPG of the Hybrid. Personally the only two things that bite me with the hybrid are no Sony 12 speakers audio and no ambient lighting (seriously? WHY?!) But there you go. Later today I will be uploading official documents from Ford sent to auto dealers to order their 2013 Fusions. The documents will be in picture form and will allow you to see the current configurations dealers are being given and what the options look like on paper.

Oh and I'm going to be first in line for the 2013 Ford Fusion Hybrid regardless. Forgot to mention that. I'm so anxious I look online for any new articles or videos EVERY DAY.. This is going to be my first car and I'm very excited. This won't detour me from purchasing the car... It's just for someone following the line closely until I'm a proud owner that was a bit of a let down that's all.

@ akirby = It would be more than one extra fuel stop per year unless you drive 658 miles a year... And you're right, there is a big difference between fuel tank capacity and fuel consumption. HOWEVER. Ford advertises the current 2012 Ford Fusion (even on their site) as capable of getting 700 miles per tank. THAT can only mean they are doing what I'm doing and going by capacity and not consumption OR their capacity matches consumption (which I highly doubt any vehicle is that efficient)...so in other words... I'm being as realistic as Ford is by saying the new 2013 will get, at best, 658 miles per full tank. I'm sure real world applications such as weather, drivers patterns, driving conditions, etc. take into effect and actual miles per gallon and miles per tank are smaller. I doubt many people would get the full 697 miles with their 2012 but its a high enough number to where they can at least expect somewhere in the high 600s on return. However with the new 2013 you would have to expect really low 600s...and I just feel, personally that that is a step back for hybrids here in America. Maybe in Europe it's not a big deal..but here in America where every car company is trying to inch closer and closer to the Prius' 50mpg and call it a breakthrough every year their numbers increase by 1-3mpg a rise from 41mpg (2012) to 47mpg (2013) looks excellent on the surface...but when you look under those superficial numbers and see the tank size has been reduced greatly that number doesn't really mean much overall as you get lower ranger in all. It's simple.