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  1. Problem Fixed. Ford replaced the evaporator and that solved the problem A/C worked without any issues for the rest of the warmer September. What I did notice was when I set the climate control at 70deg for heat, the a/c compressor cycled, something it didn't to in the past. Really put a damper on mpg's specially with the reformulated gas in the NE. I dropped 3-4mpg's. I notice if I did a selection of where I wanted the air to blow, that (the buttons on the control head on the right side) the a/c compress or would not cycle and mpg's improved. When I spoke to ford service the tech said that was the way it was supposed to work ????? It doesn't matter because I was so frustrated with the year long situation and some other things were starting to go at 80k miles I decided to get rid of the fusion. Mechanically the car was outstanding but the little electrical and nuisance issues that kept popping up over the past year was very frustrating and wasn't worth the aggravation. For those of you who have an extended warrantee, I still had a year in time and 15k miles left and when I called ford to get a refund on the unused portion of the warrantee, I was told that since they did work under the extended warrantee (over $5k spent trying to fix the a/c problem which took them a year to figure out) that any potential refund would be reduced by the amount they paid out. So in other words, if you get the extended warrantee and sell your car before it expires, if you had any work done, they reduce what they would give you back by the amount of the work. When I got the car they dealer told me that not only would it be transferrable but if I sold it I would get a refund on the remaining time......................they were not telling me the truth. When I sold my Altima, which was a real lemon car, Nissan refunded me the balance on the extended warrantee with no issue! Way to go Ford! ! !
  2. My 2010 which is basically the same took several months to fix. After changing lines, condenser, sensors (I have climate control) they finally pulled the evaporator which was slightly blocked. All done under the extended warrantee
  3. I am in Union County about 5 minutes from exit 135 on the Garden State Parkway. The wheels are Ford factory 17" fusion wheels (not he 18" sport wheels that came on the car). They have the ford TPMS sensors on the valve stem. The tires fit my wife's new car but the wheels don't so I figure when I get her new winter tires, I will just get the whole package including new tpms sensors for her since she didn't get a ford.
  4. I am selling my 17" wheels and tires (tpms sensors mounted on wheels) from my 2001 Fusion Sport. The Michilin X-Ice2 tires have two light seasons on them and the wheels have a few winter type scratches on one of them. The tires has a lot of tread on them and I am only asking $400 for the wheels and mounted tires with the tpms sensors attached. I live in NJ and not sure how expensive it would be to ship but at this price it might be work it for you to have them shipped.
  5. I think they are a little lost on what the problem was. They tech blew air thru the evaporator and didn't think it was plugged. I did have this problem once the first time I used the a/c on a warm humid day on a longer trip. The system froze up on my way out to Iowa. I was near a ford dealership on I80 so I pulled in and in the 15 minutes it took for them to take a look at the car, there was a pool of water underneath and the problem "fixed itself" The dealer suggested that I just leave the climate control on a temp and not use the fan speed control like on a manual a/c car. I did that and didn't have the problem again until it popped up last summer. As far as a blockage, the FSE seemed to think that was the issue and I guess changing everything out got rid of whatever was causing the blockage but I did notice after they changed the condenser, it froze up within a few minutes not the normal 20 minutes so perhaps the theory that whatever was in there got blow into the evaporator might be what occurred. We are going to get some 70's over the next few days and I will run the a/c to see if it happens again. I sure hope not because I am tired of all of this
  6. I think they may have solved my problem. Picked up car today and used a/c for about 45 minutes without any freezing up of the evaporator. Tech said that since he put in the new evaporator (he also checked out a lot of other things) that the a/c was cycling and after running the a/c for about an hour and then a hour test drive, system seemed to be running fine. I will watch over the next few days and see how it goes
  7. Well, here my car has been in the service bay since last Tuesday. They pulled out the dash and since I have a 3.5, a lot of the motor had to be taken off to access the a/c lines to the evaporator. Yesterday I went by to see what was going on and the car was back together. Unfortunately the tech said when they put in the Freon, he saw that the line seals were leaking. I always thought that whenever you open up a a/c line you always change out the seals??? I guess it isn't in the SOP that ford has to do that. Anyway, they were waiting for the parts to be delivered today and they said I should finally have my car this hopefully today (which didn't happen) or tomorrow. I sure hope this replacement fixes the problem. We are going to get some warmer temps over the next few days so I can see if it works.
  8. Dealer hasn't started working on car yet so I don't know if the evaporator replacement is going to do the trick.
  9. Sure thing, I will post if changing the evaporator solved the problem. They are doing it on Tuesday. One thing I would suggest, giver ford customer care a call and explain the problem your having and get a reference number. If the car is not currently covered, you did bring it to the dealer to have it fixed and they didn't fix it correctly they should not continue to charge and charge you for their trying to find a fix.The dealer techs are supposed to be experts and they have all the computers to figure this out. This is what the sales guys always tell you to get your service business. I would complain and tell them that you will pay when they figure out the right problem. You can also tell them that you have been on the internet and other people are having the same problem. (I wonder if it was a bad component, my care was made very early in production in 2009 I think February). I assume they changed the TSB parts and it didn't work. As I indicated, I had to pay the $100 deductible for my ford extended warrantee just once, the first time and I refused to pay the next few times because they "failed to diagnose and fix the problem" and that has been working. Even Ford said I would not have to pay the deductible because they "couldn't fix the problem"
  10. Well, so far no news about the dealer getting my part. I get the feeling that I am continuing to get jerked around. As much as I hate saying this because most of my new cars have been fords, after this experience I am going to have to think long and hard about buying another one even if they are already telling me that they will give me a xplan pin. In a few more weeks I will not need a/c or perhaps they are going to tell me it is fixed when it isn't and come spring, will have the problem all over again
  11. Perhaps that is what they are thinking. A year ago when this all started I suggested that it might be the evaporator and they said that they blew air thru it and it wasn't blocked. I had a similar problem with my home a/c last summer. I was recovering from a major operation and forgot to clean out the air filters so airflow thru the evaporator went down substantially. In the middle of the night the a/c unit started to make a noise and when I checked the evaporator was totally iced up. I shut down the compressor and in about 5 minutes, it had cleared itself but didn't take long to freeze up again. I cleaned the filters the next morning and everything worked fine. Last summer when it froze up I checked the cabin filter which I had changed about a month prior to the problem and it was clean but I continued to have the problem. As I indicated, perhaps the evaporator sensor was the initial problem but as you suggested, some of the fins or perhaps line deformed and prevented sufficient air flow because, if I am sitting in traffic and it is really hot outside, it takes a lot longer to freeze up then driving at 50mph on a 80deg day
  12. Wow, I really started some discussion and really appreciate it all. When I called today they were very specific that they were going to change the evaporator. Their thinking (along with the FSE) is that there is some sort of blockage which makes a little sense. I am wondering if the evaporator sensor was faulty but by the time the got around to changing it, there was some damage done to the evaporator itself. Is it possible that some of the fins or tubes were deformed by the cycling of freezing and thawing to the point where there is restricted air flow thru the evaporator which causes the evaporator to freeze up? I hate to suggest anything. Oh, I did ask the tech if they changed out the PCM and he said no but they did replace the a/c module. They also told me that they went thru some process to check out all the connectors and resistance in the lines and they were all ok. They did the check on the connectors/pins last November and checked the lines sometime in the spring. The tech in Florida was told to check out the lines but I had to head north so he didn't have time to do that. The service manager suggested that it might be the compressor but frankly, the compressor does run and I can hear it cycling on and off when I am sitting still. However, it still freezes up. I am just a little pissed off because of the tremendous amount of inconvenience I have to go thru when they need the car. Not only that, today I had to head over to Staten Island to pick up some parts for my Harley and doing a 17 mile drive took over 2 hours there and back due to construction and traffic. Sitting in 90+ high humidity and heat didn't make me a very happy camper. What really ticked me off was when I was on the phone with the service manager and he asked how I was doing I told him sitting in a non-ac car in traffic and his comment to me was that I should have taken my wife's car! ! ! What an A hole
  13. The latest and greatest......................received a call from the service manager that the FSE suggested that they change the evaporator. As soon as they get the part they will give me a call and do the replacement. Sure hope it works.
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