smi889

Good luck!

That will be one of the happiest days of your life!

Best thing you can do is get rid of it like I did. Never solved the intermittent no start. Started having other problems like car shutting down on the Turnpike and the Advance Trac started acting up. Personally I think the software was a problem and never any answer. Take my word, it is a dangerous vehicle, dump it if you can.

I still haven't taken my car to the Dealership. Still having the intermittent problem with an additional symptom. Went out to make sure my vehicle health report reminder was turned off as it is no longer available. Went into the accessory mode by leaving foot off of the brake. Up pops the error messages and as I acknowledged the various ones, it finally gets to full accessory active, put foot on brake and start? I know you can't troubleshoot electronics on the internet but trying to find out if anyone else has had this issue. Ford has no TSB out on this particular problem. Wanted to gain a little knowledge before I go to the Dealership and they come up with a no problem found for a $100+ computer diagnostic. I would think they could go into the different modules and check the software for updates. Never know! Curious and a little frustrated with Ford's electronics.

Guess I'm confused on the the intermittent not cranking problem you were having. I can understand if it was not starting before or running properly with the issues they found, but shouldn't it have still turned over/cranked? Just curious as I still have the same issue whenever it feels like it.

Hey Ibtalton, did you drive it off a cliff?

I am still having the intermittent problem. It will be interesting to see if they can isolate the problem Monday. I doubt it.

Exactly why I was searching for someone who has the same problem. Was hoping that Ibtalon would come back on his post.

I do not have a wireless charger. I do have the push button start so if I put the key FOB in the console how would I determine if that was a good trouble shooting if the car can start on the second try or when ever it wants to? It may go a month or two and not happen. I have always been able to start the car no matter how many attempts it takes. Very hard to explain unless you experience it. It would be nice to hear from lbtalton if he is still having this problem.

No. I don't have a parasitic power drai.

This is still happening to me and so far I have learned to live with it. Have no faith in Dealership diagnostics. When you say it won't start, how many times do you try? On mine it may start the second or third attempt. I don't give up until it eventually starts, very frustrating, and it is always random. Like you, I replaced the original good battery with a new battery just for assurances. I am beginning to believe that when Ford done away with the Vehicle Maintenance Report something is going on with the software. No way to prove it and no Manufacture wants to admit to anything. I share your frustration!

Update On Start Problem! In addition to the start problem I have a parasitic battery drain. Stopped by the dealership today to ask if their computer could diagnose that type of problem and they "should" be able to at a cost of $115-$200. Anyway, went out to the car to leave and wouldn't start. Tried three times and went in to leave it there. The service guy came out so I could show him and sure enough it didn't start and he could see the messages. Turned it off and no start the second time but I left my foot on the brake longer this time and up came the messages, low oil pressure, engine coolant over-temp, wrench symbol, ABS, and then it said put foot on brake, then start engine. It started! To me it looks like it was doing diagnostics by itself. Might be the reason for the battery drain running diagnostics on it's own? Next time it fails to start I will keep my foot on the brake and see if I get the same messages as I referred to as diagnostics. Very interesting but confusing.

This problem happens with remote start or normal as sitting in the car. It is so inconsistent as not daily, every week , or month, and is not a daily driver. When I go to start the car, step on the brake, push the start button I don't hear a click or stater engage or the engine engage. However, the driver seat goes forward, get all the warning messages, not the normal just oil pressure light etc.. Hit the stop button seat slides back and of course all warnings go off. It make work on the second attempt or it may take a few more tries and start normally. Have never had a check engine light and of course this happens right after the three year warranty. I don't know of a diagnostic tool that could read this, thus my hesitancy to go to a dealership. Not sure about the start-run relay but may have to start shot-gunning the problem. I have googled and have not seen this problem even in the TSB's.

First thing I did was have the battery load tested which read okay. Bought a new one anyway since it was three years old. Understand about normal warning lights on dash coming on, but I as I said the seat slide forward into the drive position and all the warning messages, not lamps, scrolled thru on the dash. Completely different than a normal ignition turn on to start. ?