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Thanks Allen, Thank you. Very informative, but I guess from what you describe this is only usable if a person has a laptop with MS Operating system and not Apple OS?? I have neither. If there is anyone having this Hybrid problem and in the San Jose, Calif. area and was able to do this procedure on their vehicle please contact me and maybe we can get together. Steve

DoGo88, Thanks for the info and link to the other FF Forum. I'll take the info to some local Ford dealers and see if they are interested in checking this procedure out.

INFORMATION: I spoke to a relative who works in the automotive industry and told him of my problem. He contacted a guy who is in charge of the hybrid vehicles in a city( not going to name city) that my relative deals with. This guy says that the problem is in the hybrid battery and said it was either Cell#4 or Cell #7 that is causing the problems. Have no idea how many cells comprise these hybrid batteries. When the car goes into hybrid mode at a stop, for example, and you take your foot off the brake to drive in hybrid mode that detected “load” on the hybrid battery is detected by the hybrid system and because of one of the cells mentioned above being bad the system shuts down hybrid mode and defaults to the ICE. That in order for a diagnostic trouble code DTC to show up it has to do that five or so times in a hour. I’ll mention this to my dealer but I suspect they are going to chalk it up to “normal wear and tear” and not do a heck of a lot. I may also talk with Ford customer care. Don’t know number off hand but it is in owners manual some place. Another point of contact, for me anyway is, is California 's Bureau of Automotive Repair. Hope me this helps.

Wel, my dealer tested ABS contrôler and all ok. They reprogrammed it just in case. They also reprogrammed the hybrid battery but nothing has changed. Still same problem as when I brought it in. They will contact Ford hotline to see what is next. I think it is the hybrid battery as do other posts but Ford doesn’t want to replace under warranty it seems. Will talk with them later today or tomorrow.

All tests of my temp sensors indicated that they were fine. Ford Hotline engineers are now suggesting that there is a possibility that my issues are ABS related and Ford tech is checking ABS sensors and controllers. They named the proper names but, sorry, i can not recall specifics. This may make sense since as soon as foot comes off break pedal the gas engine starts right up. Maybe brake related ??? Stayed tuned folks I’ll advise outcome. Steve

I have the same issue as jzavadil. The car is currently at the dealer and between their tech guy and some hotline calls to Ford they can’t figure it out. I am beginning to think that the car thinks it is warmed up enough when in fact it is not. Even though in Calif. we have generally higher temps there have been several days of 40-50. I’ll get it back next week and see what happens as outside temps start to warm. Have had this car since new and now 108k. I am surprised that Ford can not figure this out. I have talked to them about temp. as a possibility but don"t think anyone there has an open mind to that possibility. Frustrating.

You probably found one by now but I got mine from Dash Design in Arizona (online). Order with sensor cut out. Mat fits like a glove. Can not find my receipt or would give you more info. Cost was about 40 bucks. Thay did not make on for the rear deck. Steve

Mine has done it a few times. Always resets to the default display. And yes mpg readouts average and long term always go way down. I'll check in to the TSB number.

For the size of the car I feel mileage is great even with the minor descrepencies. What is this manual seat recline recall? Did I miss a post. Certainly I have received no letter from Ford.

It goes on as soon as I go into reverse. No set pattern when it will do this. Has not done it for last couple days. Lke folks said maybe it is a bad sensor.

Anybody have a problem with the backup warning buzzer staying on and not just beeping when you get closer to an object? This happens intermittently but usually 2-3 times a week. Steve

I checked out your info on the Ford technology. That was interesting reading those articles and cleared up a misperception on my part. Thanks Steve

Not to add anymore confusuion than already is there but my wife read/heard sometime back that Toyota licensed a lot of its hybrid technology to Ford. Myth??? Don not know. But is is interesting. Steve

Right. Thanks. I just saw the Consumer Reports article about this upgrade. Haven't received a letter yet but will check with Ford dealer. Steve