Tire Pressure monitor system

[theandies]

So I've enabled 4 wheel tire pressure monitoring screen on the left instrument panel and all 4 wheels show incorrect pressures according to my tire pressure gauge.  Reading more about it I've found that I need to teach each TPS using a specific technique and a special too.  I bought the tool and am ready to try it but I have a question.  Here are the instructions that I believe are correct for my 2016 Fusion Titanium with push button start:

Manual relearn procedure (push-button start):

• Important note, some models require the start button to be pressed twice (without pressing the brake) to enter RUN mode (Ignition ON/Engine OFF). If this is the case, modify steps 3 and 5 as noted.
• Engage the parking brake and inflate all tires
• With the vehicle OFF, push and release the brake pedal
• Push START button 5 times (NOTE: 8 times if 2x-to-RUN)
• Press and release the brake pedal
• Push START button 6 times (NOTE: 9 times if 2x-to-RUN)
• A single horn chirp will indicate the relearn mode is active
• Use the tool to activate the left front sensor
• A single horn sounds to indicate sensor learning successful
• Repeat for right front, right rear and left rear tires
• TRAINING MODE COMPLETE will display on the message center when relearn is finished

I'm a little confused on the first instruction note as to which kind of push button setup I have.  How do I tell if I'm in RUN mode?  What should I be seeing in run mode with the engine off  (Ignition ON/Engine OFF).

Here is the tool I bought off of the big A for $12 if anyone is interested.
Ford TPMS Reset Sensor Programming Training Tool Tire Pressure Monitor System TPMS19 (8C2Z-1A203-A)

  I'll report back if it works or not as I'm off to work and won't be able to get to this until Wednesday.

Thanks everyone in advance

John

2016 Fusion Titanium 
White Platinum Metallic
19 inch optional rims
Charcoal Black interior

[bbf2530]

Hi theandies.  Your Owners Manual tells you how to put your ignition in "Run" mode. 

 

However, in this case, it should be a single press of the start button to enter "Run" mode (I can not vouch for your instructions). Your dash lights should light up. A second press puts the system into what is essentially "Accessory" mode, allowing the driver to listen to the radio and use the power windows for ~10 minutes.

 

On a related note: Have you verified that your tire pressure gauge is accurate by double checking with another gauge? I have run into more than a few inaccurate tire pressure gauges.

 

Let us know how you make out and good luck.

[theandies]

Thanks bb.  Yes, I checked my tires with three different gauges and they all read the same.  On the TPS display my right rear is reading 47psi lol so I know that is wrong.  I guess I'll just try 5 the 6 presses and see if I get the horn honk.  If not the try 8 and 9 presses and report back.

[bangster]

IA/Intelligent Access/"Push Button Start" doesn't have accessory mode, just Off, On, and Start. On is what you get when you press start without your foot on the brake. It is different than accessory in that all things that are on in Run are on, just the engine isn't running.

 

It is only one press of Start to get to On, so it is probably the lower numbers listed, but should be easy to try it that way, then if that doesn't go into programming mode, the other way. I doubt that learning them will do much, if anything. If there was a fault that it couldn't read one, then maybe.

 

I added custom PIDs to Torque to display the pressures on my phone connected to the OBD-II connector, and usually they are spot on, even after running for awhile in the heat and they go up to 38/40 PSI, then once cooled back to 32/34 psi.

[theandies]

Thanks bangster - Do you have the PID's you used in Torque?  I've used Torque for years......

[bbf2530]

9 hours ago, bangster said:

IA/Intelligent Access/"Push Button Start" doesn't have accessory mode, just Off, On, and Start. On is what you get when you press start without your foot on the brake. It is different than accessory in that all things that are on in Run are on, just the engine isn't running.

 

It is only one press of Start to get to On, so it is probably the lower numbers listed, but should be easy to try it that way, then if that doesn't go into programming mode, the other way. I doubt that learning them will do much, if anything. If there was a fault that it couldn't read one, then maybe.

 

I added custom PIDs to Torque to display the pressures on my phone connected to the OBD-II connector, and usually they are spot on, even after running for awhile in the heat and they go up to 38/40 PSI, then once cooled back to 32/34 psi.

 

Hi bangster. We have all had this  discussion before. "IA/Intelligent Access/"Push Button Start" has the equivalent of 'Accessory Mode".  No foot on brake and pressing the "Start" button once gives you ignition on (What you called "On") That is no engine start (dash warning lights will light up, HVAC fan will blow, audio will play, windows will work etc.)  Still  no foot on the brake and pushing the "Start" button a second time (or pressing "OK") puts you in what most people understand as "Accessory Mode".  You can now listen to the radio and use the power windows for ~10 minutes before "Accessory Mode" will shut off, without all the lights and blower motor.  Rinse and repeat if you are waiting for your wife, and need more radio time/window time.

 

Hope this explanation makes it clearer.

Edited May 28, 2019 by bbf2530

[bangster]

No, it doesn't. The second press of Start goes to OFF and DELAY ACCESSORY mode, which is not the same as Accessory and will not require them to do 9 presses of start.

 

Can you do this fake not Accessory mode with the door open? No, it is not possible because it is not Accessory Mode but Delay Accessory mode.

[bangster]

They are actually built in now, if you go to Torque Settings (from the main screen, not the Real Time Info screens), Manage Extra PIDs, 3 dot menu, Add predefined set, Ford, and scroll to "Left..." and "Right..." and you can add them that way, the equation is slightly different than what I put in, but I think both result in the same displayed pressure. Lots interesting pre loaded available Ford only PIDs in that list, I created my own set as I frequently change devices and makes it easier to do.

 

 

[bbf2530]

15 hours ago, bangster said:

No, it doesn't. The second press of Start goes to OFF and DELAY ACCESSORY mode, which is not the same as Accessory and will not require them to do 9 presses of start.

 

Can you do this fake not Accessory mode with the door open? No, it is not possible because it is not Accessory Mode but Delay Accessory mode.

 Hi bangster. So you are all upset and shouting in caps because I called it "Accessory" mode instead of "Delayed Accessory mode"?

 

As stated previously, theandies car enters "Run" mode on the first press of "Start", so those are the directions he should follow. A second press of "Start",  or one of "Start" and one of "OK", will enter "Accessory" or "Delayed Accessory" mode however one may describe it.  And as I also stated, it is what most people consider to be the old "Accessory Mode", it is simply called "Delay Accessory" now.  And yes, it is the same as the old  "Accessory Mode" or "Delay Accessory" mode on my 2007 key start MKZ, which turns off after 10 minutes or when you open the doors. And it was called "Accessory mode" and turned off on several of my previous cars, after 10 minutes, or a door being opened.

 

If you want to be very precise, I should call it "DELAY ACCESSORY" mode (without all caps), and you should not have omitted "DELAY ACCESSORY" mode from your previous reply. In other words, when you stated "Intelligent Access/"Push Button Start" doesn't have accessory mode, just Off, On, and Start. On is what you get when you press start without your foot on the brake. It is different than accessory in that all things that are on in Run are on, just the engine isn't running."

Your  information was incomplete, because there is "Delay Accessory" mode (I called it "Accessory" god forbid). This allows use of the audio and windows without "... all things that are on in Run are on, just the engine isn't running".

 

So I left out "Delayed", and you completely left out the entire "Delayed Accessory" mode mode. So here is an idea: From now on, I will try to remember to call it "Delayed Accessory" mode, and you can try not to completely leave "Delayed Accessory" mode out of your ignition position explanations. Sound good?

 

Again, hope this makes my earlier reply and explanation of all the ignition position/modes clearer. Good luck. ?

Edited May 29, 2019 by bbf2530

[theandies]

Interesting enough that Torque shows the same tire pressures as the display in the car.  Now I think I'll have to do the learning process and I'm wondering if I never enabled the display that the tire pressure warning system would work correctly if I should lose pressure especially in the right rear that is reading 47psi right now when the actual pressure is 35.

[theandies]

Both the procedure and the $12 tool worked like a champ.  I tried the 5 and 6 presses of the push button start first and it went into learn mode.

I had to mess with the pressures a little to get them to read according to all three of my tire gauges by letting a little out then over inflating to about 45psi then letting it out until it reached 37 (my placard pressure).  One of my gauges I use working on aircraft and it's calibrated but hard to read on cars because the scale is so large but it was spot on.

Success and I hope this helps others.

[bbf2530]

1 hour ago, theandies said:

Both the procedure and the $12 tool worked like a champ.  I tried the 5 and 6 presses of the push button start first and it went into learn mode.

I had to mess with the pressures a little to get them to read according to all three of my tire gauges by letting a little out then over inflating to about 45psi then letting it out until it reached 37 (my placard pressure).  One of my gauges I use working on aircraft and it's calibrated but hard to read on cars because the scale is so large but it was spot on.

Success and I hope this helps others.

 

Hi theandies.  Glad it all worked out for you and thanks for posting the information for others.

 

Good luck. ?

[theandies]

One more thing.  I adjusted the pressures when I got home from work (I work night shift) so naturally the air was hot and the TP's were a little higher than cold pressure.  When I got up and checked all the pressures were 4 or 5 pounds low so I have to adjust them to the proper cold TP.  Now everything is complete!

[theandies]

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[luizhumberto5]

On 28/05/2019 at 18:25, bangster said:

Na verdade, eles estão incorporados agora, se você acessar Configurações de torque (na tela principal, não nas telas de informações em tempo real ), Gerenciar PIDs extras, menu de 3 pontos, Adicionar conjunto predefinido, Ford e rolar para "Esquerda ..." e "Certo ..." e você pode adicioná-los dessa maneira, a equação é um pouco diferente do que eu coloquei, mas acho que ambos resultam na mesma pressão exibida. Muitos PIDs Ford pré-carregados disponíveis apenas interessantes nessa lista, criei meu próprio conjunto, pois troco de dispositivo com frequência e facilita a execução.

 

 

 

Very nice! Thanks for the tip! I will test here!