Ecoboost 2.0L consomption. Anyone has some results?

[fusionfamily]

The engines come pretty much broken in from the factory. However - the PCM is setup to run rich for the first few thousand miles. (my wife's 2012 took about 3000 miles before we noticed an improvement in fuel mileage). Also - fuel is blended differently for the season / weather and even your location. Winter fuel here in Winnipeg is not blended the same - say as winter fuel in Montreal. Don't be suprised to see a 25% drop (at least) in fuel economy in the winter time. Also - EcoBoost - if you drive with your foot lightly on the has pedal - you should get decent mileage (again - refer to previous comments), but if you honk on it just a bit - it will suck back gas like you wouldn't believe. Anything with a turbo is generally worse on gas than a naturally aspirated engine if you step into it a bit. So for folks who do mostly city driving - you're SOL. Folks who do highway driving should see an improvement.

[Goodburbon]

The EPA average MPG for the AWD is 25 with 55% city/45% hwy. You're only 1 MPG down. What % of your driving is City/Hwy?

Nearly 100% highway.

[Deuga]

Nearly 100% highway.

I'm sorry to hear that.

[FusionDiffusion]

3000 miles logged, 24mpg

 

I don't buy the "it'll break in" line. Didn't work for either f-150 ecoboost I've owned ( total of 57k miles)

 

Nearly 100% highway.

 

That is rather pathetic. I'm currently getting better than that (~26 MPG) with my 3.5L and I'm about 90% highway. Assuming the Ecoboost engines are just really difficult to drive economically, I think there's room for improvement with a fuel economy tune that really cuts out the boost at highway cruise speeds.

[Goodburbon]

Pathetic, yes. I can't say I didn't expect it though, after owning the F-150 ecoboosts.

 

Yes, I think a tune that could stay out of the boost at 65+mph would be the key.

 

On the bright side, if I drive it 60mph that little video game in the dash says I'm getting over 30 mpg. Today I had a tailwind and it stayed over 40mpg, but that'll just average into the tank when I calculate it.

 

I know driving habits have a bit to do with it so here's a rundown.

 

I drive the speed limit in town. I will do an occasional jackrabbit start just because.

 

Most of the time On the highway I drive 3-6 mph over the limit. The highway trip tp work is 500 miles and my speeds range from 70-78, cruise set as often as possible, only stops are for fuel and I pass through 1 downtown,

[acdii]

Ford is sending an engineer Wednesday to work on my car, so hoping they can find the problem and fix it.

[robd23]

I'll be pretty pissed off if I don't hit 25mpg at 3000 considering my commute is 70% highway. I'm still very early on but I'm not impressed with the readout so far... 20.3 mpg? And that's with mostly grannying it from a stop and going a max of 65 on the higway. My last car was 21/29 and I averaged 27. Hell, when I had a V8 that was 17/25 I averaged 23.

Like I said, still very early into ownership but if I hadn't read these forums and known to not take it to heart until around 3k miles I'd feel lied to.

[acdii]

I road tested a 2010 MKT Ecoboost the other day, mixed city highway and got 24 MPG. Thats a larger vehicle with 2 more pistons and about 100 more HP.

[txtenor]

Well, I am starting to see the numbers climb pretty noticeably now. I went over 6K miles on her this past week and each tank seems to show an improvement. I am using the two trip odometers to keep track and it is climbing into the 24+mpg territory now (started out under 21 the first 1500mi). I drive pretty much a 50/50 mix of city/hwy although I occasionally will do as much as 70 percent hwy. I haven't really modified my driving habits and have actually hit the right pedal pretty aggressively on several occasions recently.

 

I have a long trip from Seattle to eastern Idaho coming up in April for which I will be interested to see how the numbers sort out. I will likely have two passengers so my numbers will not be a direct correlation to my normal daily driving, but still...I anticipate numbers up near the EPA estimates with some allowance for the mountain passes. The drive east gains about 3000 feet in elevation and goes through passes up to 6000 or 7000 feet...not exactly EPA conditions. I will report on my numbers once I get back.

[jayyvee]

I'm still early into my mileage but thought I'd share since my driving scenario isn't typical for everyone.

 

2.0l SE

 

Hit 700+ miles this morning on her, with my 2nd tank of gas (Only able to squeeze in 13 gals with '11 until E' showing, this is a 16.5 gal tank - what gives??).

 

Averaging 20.2 so far - mostly morning/evening commute to work/home, in heavy traffic.. 1 weekly road trip of 40-50 miles on the highway, which brings it 'up' to that 20.2 (averaging 19.1 until it gets to stretch on the highway some). On the highway, I'm into it (Hey, it's Atlanta it's what we do..) mostly 75 or so.. It hangs around 26mpg while cruising with CC on.

 

Hoping to see this creep up as others have reported - but my concern is, isn't this the 'best' airtemp time for the car - late winter early spring? (mid 30-mid 60's?) It's only going to get worse with a hot summer and a intercooled turbo - and A/C on? (hoping this isn't the case)

[jinx8402]

50-70 is probably the most optimal temps, mid 30s is still pretty low. I don't think higher temps (80+) themselves are a problem, it's like you said though AC will be on which causes MPG to dip.

 

This past fill up (just shy of 1000 miles) I got 22MPG, up from 19 from my first couple of fillups. I do mostly city driving...5 mile one way to work, with about 1.25 on freeway and the rest city driving. I'm pretty happy with it actually. Hybrid/Energi were not an option for me as I need the trunk space for when I travel.

[FusionNewbie]

Just got through my first tank of gas...its currently sitting at 10 DTE (still yet to fill up). However, I only got 300 miles out of the first tank of gas. I feel like that's not right. And that's with what I'd say is 65% of careful freeway driving.

 

If I calculate it out 300miles/16.5gal= roughly 18mpg for the first tank...that's pathetic. Even if we call it 20 taking into account the reserve issues, which I'll find out more about when I fill up tomorrow. Freeway driving isn't the issue - I can maintain around 32mpg if I'm careful with the throttle, but once you hit city streets it just kills the mpg.

 

This better improve.

[jinx8402]

Well, you can't divide the miles driven by the size of the tank, but rather what you actually used. You probably only used 13 gallons, which equates to 23MPG. If you only did 65% freeway then that is not too bad considering the time of the year (different gas formulation, temp) and the fact that the engine is still in it's break-in period.

[FusionNewbie]

Hmm...is there any better way to calculate how much you truly used?

 

I guess this leads me to another question - are you aware of anyway to calculate 2 different mpgs concurrently? Basically, it'd be cool to keep one going for the life of the car and then be able to calculate an MPG for a given trip.

[akirby]

Hmm...is there any better way to calculate how much you truly used?

 

I guess this leads me to another question - are you aware of anyway to calculate 2 different mpgs concurrently? Basically, it'd be cool to keep one going for the life of the car and then be able to calculate an MPG for a given trip.

 

Is that a trick question? When you fill up just look at the pump. Assuming you fill up to the same point each time the amount you put in is approximately how much you used for that tank. Probably around 12 - 12.5 gallons, not 16.5. This works no matter when you add gas or how much it takes.

 

Do you have dual trip odometers? If so just reset one of those and don't touch it again and that will give you lifetime mpg. Reset the other one after each fillup.

[jinx8402]

Do you have a smartphone? If so there are plenty of apps that can do it for you. The key is to top off the same way every time you fill up. Meaning, do the three click rule like it says in the manual. Then record how much you put in, the actual odometer reading and most ask for price of gas. Doing this, the app subtracts your last odometer reading from current odometer reading and then divides by how many gallons you put in the tank. If you don't fill to the top, then it will throw off the calculation, though most apps have an option for when you don't top off.

[acdii]

Do you have a smartphone? If so there are plenty of apps that can do it for you. The key is to top off the same way every time you fill up. Meaning, do the three click rule like it says in the manual. Then record how much you put in, the actual odometer reading and most ask for price of gas. Doing this, the app subtracts your last odometer reading from current odometer reading and then divides by how many gallons you put in the tank. If you don't fill to the top, then it will throw off the calculation, though most apps have an option for when you don't top off.

Fuel log is one I use, and Fuelly.com also has an app.

[FusionNewbie]

Roger that, signed up for Fuelly! Just did my first fill up - got 13.35 gallons in the tank using the three click method with 10miles DTE. Count me in with the group that has a tank issue.

[drober30]

Ford is sending an engineer Wednesday to work on my car, so hoping they can find the problem and fix it.

Did the engineer look at your gas tank?

[agbowden]

I thought I would update my original request with some data, and comparison to the car I had just before my Fusion, which was a 1997 Ford Taurus with a 3.0L V6 (lowest HP engine at that time, in the series), approaching 200,000 miles, and also having transmission issues. See image of data table below:

 

 

 

Personally, I think that the new Fusion should be getting better mileage right off the lot than my 16 year old beat up Taurus with a 3.0L V6, regardless of having more horse power. My Fusion is supposed to get 22 in the city and 33 on the highway. The highest I averaged on the highway was on a 100 mile trip which was 28 mph (98% highway).

 

I'm approaching 3,500 miles, so I really think the engine should be broken in. And I don't think premium vs. regular, or ethanol vs no ethanol or winter vs summer, or any of those things should make that much difference - not the difference of what I'm getting versus what I should be getting.

 

I drive daily about 30% city / 70% highway. The bumps up in mileage on the attached table is when I went on an almost all highway trip.

 

When I drove my Taurus I put my foot in it daily, never concerned myself with driving to get better gas mileage, got gas anywhere I wanted, any brand, and i've averaged about 20 mpg. Now, driving the latest in technology, Ecoboost, 4 cylinder, AND driving with a VERY soft foot, AND using premium gas the last 3 tanks and I'm getting almost exactly the same mileage as my old Taurus.

 

By the way, I know a guy at work who bought the new Honda Accord (V6, i think) and someone else who just bought a new GM small SUV (can't remember which), but both are getting pretty close to the advertised MPG right off the lot.

Edited March 7, 2013 by agbowden

[Chingon]

I too came from a 3.0 Vulcan Taurus (2002) and now I drive a 2011 SE with 2.5L. My mileage was typically around 20mpg with the Taurus (didn't keep a log, but it was between 20-22 every fillup.) Now my official average is 26mpg, but comparing it to the Taurus I'd say I typically see a 3mpg increase in normal city driving.

 

So compare my 2011 2.5L to your 2013 2.0L EPA ratings, then compare my old Taurus average to yours (loose comparison, but I always had my foot in it too...)

[Goodburbon]

Now at 5900 miles, the Last two tanks have seen a sudden jump from 24 mpg to 27.5 mpg. my wife skipped logging a fillup so the overall average is skewed a bit.

 

Either they're rolling out non winter blend fuel or unlike my F-150s it's actually breaking in. We'll see how things progress, but 28 is certainly more acceptable than 24.Temperatures still around freezing for all but the last fillup which was ~60-70, so two tanks of identical mileage and vastly different temps.

 

Oh, and my last 60 miles the dash computer showed 31, (I was on a speed limit 55 highway) I've never seen sustained averages like this before, even with the cruise set. Fingers crossed that it stays this way.

[u0061914]

While mine is a 1.6L not a 2.0L, I recently had a similar experience. I had been getting onlt 24-26mpg on mine since day one. About a week ago, I suddenly got 33+ on my normal Friday drive to my cabin in northern MN. Temps were still below freezing. No change in driving style, same roads, etc. The next two tanks of fuel have so far yielded similar results. For me this changed right about 6800 miles. So... either it suddenly "broke in" or the winter blend has now changed, although I doubt it. I'm very happy with the change, but sure would like to know why.

[ghp]

Time to add my $.02...

 

Just filled up this morning, with 9mi DTE & the trip odometer showing that 12.00 gal had been used (the last fill-up, I visually noted the odd "tank issue" behavior of the gauge dipping to 3/4 almost immediately upon leaving the station -- prior to that I hadn't been paying much of any attention to it, but after it I found these forums...). The 3-click method got me to ~12.75gal, and I was then able to coax it up to 13.5 before I got nervous about causing a problem & stopped. On this particular tank, the coaxing changed the MPG from the computer's 24.0 to a calculated 21.7, and you can see the overall MPG (per fuelly.com) in my sig below.

 

Best car I've ever driven, 2200mi in, and this doesn't diminish it in my eyes at all, but I do think I'm also suffering from the infamous tank issue, so I'll have to get over to the dealer & chat them up about it...

[jinx8402]

Best car I've ever driven, 2200mi in, and this doesn't diminish it in my eyes at all, but I do think I'm also suffering from the infamous tank issue, so I'll have to get over to the dealer & chat them up about it...

I definitely suggest doing this, even if they can't figure out the issue. The more people that voice their concerns and it gets documented, the quicker Ford will commit resources to look into a fix. Could be software or hardware related.