Chip Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Speculation is it will be less likely to shut down or go into limp home mode when a problem is detected. There is a major problem with this approach as our "failure event" seemed to occur on pulling out into traffic @ intersections or other situations that required vehicle acceleration. I am amazed that someone hasn't been hurt or killed as a result of this issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 There is a major problem with this approach as our "failure event" seemed to occur on pulling out into traffic @ intersections or other situations that required vehicle acceleration. I am amazed that someone hasn't been hurt or killed as a result of this issue. If it stops working then it stops working. The best that you can do is try to prevent it or try to keep it working to some degree and that's what Ford is doing with the software update. As vehicles become more electronic these types of failures will be more prevalent. Vehicles stop running all the time for any number of reasons including running out of gas, broken throttle cables, broken driveshafts, axles or transmissions. It is scary and can be dangerous under the right condition but this isn't limited to Ford TB problems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 There is a major problem with this approach as our "failure event" seemed to occur on pulling out into traffic @ intersections or other situations that required vehicle acceleration. I am amazed that someone hasn't been hurt or killed as a result of this issue. If you're relying on acceleration to keep you safe, you're not driving properly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 If you're relying on acceleration to keep you safe, you're not driving properly.Thanks for the unsolicited driving lesson Waldo, I'll make a note. On another front; I dropped by my local dealer to do the paperwork for the TB reimbursement and it was a pretty straight forward process. I gave them a copy of the new part receipt, the car's mileage, and it all seemed to go well. I guess we will wait and see if "The check's in the mail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
con_fusion Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Thanks for the unsolicited driving lesson Waldo, I'll make a note. On another front; I dropped by my local dealer to do the paperwork for the TB reimbursement and it was a pretty straight forward process. I gave them a copy of the new part receipt, the car's mileage, and it all seemed to go well. I guess we will wait and see if "The check's in the mail. Hey Chip, did you buy the part and replace yourself? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Hey Chip, did you buy the part and replace yourself? I did. I'll tell you an interesting story about the purchase. I called my local dealer for a price for the new TB. I was told that it would be $225.+(don't remember the exact price) I looked online and found that Amazon could provide the same OEM Ford part via a Ford dealer in Del. for $123.70 including shipping. I have the extended warranty but it has a $100. deductible, so I figured I could do the job and only pay the extra $23.70 and not have to take the car to the dealer and leave it there for a half day. While I was researching the new part and prices I found the telephone no. for the dealer that Amazon was using as a vendor. I called them directly and asked for a price and was given the same price that my local dealer gave me. I told him about the Amazon price and he told me "I can't talk about that!" A lesson learned. By the way it is an easy replacement and it took all of 20 min. to do myself. There is a U-Tube video that walks you through it on the "Throttle control/ transmission" thread. Here: http://www.fordfusionforum.com/topic/10705-throttle-control-transmission/ Post #12 Edited February 5, 2014 by Chip 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
con_fusion Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 I did. I'll tell you an interesting story about the purchase. I called my local dealer for a price for the new TB. I was told that it would be $225.+(don't remember the exact price) I looked online and found that Amazon could provide the same OEM Ford part via a Ford dealer in Del. for $123.70 including shipping. I have the extended warranty but it has a $100. deductible, so I figured I could do the job and only pay the extra $23.70 and not have to take the car to the dealer and leave it there for a half day. While I was researching the new part and prices I found the telephone no. for the dealer that Amazon was using as a vendor. I called them directly and asked for a price and was given the same price that my local dealer gave me. I told him about the Amazon price and he told me "I can't talk about that!" A lesson learned. By the way it is an easy replacement and it took all of 20 min. to do myself. There is a U-Tube video that walks you through it on the "Throttle control/ transmission" thread. Here: http://www.fordfusionforum.com/topic/10705-throttle-control-transmission/ Post #12 Thanks. I did something similar where I got the part through Amazon and proactively replaced mine after my car died several times. It wasn't the latest revision though. Maybe revision C? So I wasn't sure if I should try to submit for reimbursement or just wait and see if I have a TB issue down the road. The letter said this was a one-time program. So I'm not sure if that means they replace it once under this program and then after that you're on your own... Let us know how the reimbursement goes. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) ...Let us know how the reimbursement goes. I got it today! That was fast and what was interesting was that the check came from the dealership and not directly from Ford. Edited February 7, 2014 by Chip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I am pissed yet again at Ford's handling of what I feel is a safety issue. My wife drives this car. If she loses power on one of our busy interstates or highways, and traffic around her isnt expecting a car (her) up ahead to suddenly slow down (when she loses power), she could be involved in a serious accident. Nowadays around here, good luck getting someone to let you move over so you can get to the shoulder. Enough with the BS Customer Satisfaction Programs. Fix the problem outright! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 The reprogramming should prevent total loss of power making it safer. It's a tricky situation because it only affects a small percentage of vehicles, so a full recall would replace hundreds of thousands of TBs that aren't defective and will never have a problem. If the NHTSA thought it warranted a full recall then they would have been all over it. Besides - your vehicle can stop running at any time for any reason - happens every day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifferent Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 ^^ Agreed power loss happens quite often one reason or another. My throttle body probaly shut off my car a good 8 times... usually at a stop sign or while accelerating the harriest spot it put me in was while i was rounding a fairly sharp bend and i was not expecting it and the power stearing went out that got a little sporty when u add in winter roads and icy shoulders. this is why they tell you to always have two hands on the wheel and be payign attention i guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 And get it fixed as soon as you have a problem, especially now that it's covered under warranty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
con_fusion Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 I missed the news reports that the investigation into the TB issues was closed. Here is a summary - http://www.autonews.com/article/20140304/RETAIL05/140309943/nhtsa-ends-inquiry-into-1.6m-fords-including-escape-fusion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Here is a rub for those of us that replaced the TB ourselves. I assume that there would have been a new ecm reflash that a dealership would have used to go with a new TB. Those of us that did that work ourselves missed that possibility, so maybe we need to take our cars in for the new reflash? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Yes, take it in if you want the reflash. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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