PaulGo Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 In cold weather when my two cars is warming up it will go to Full charge, but when driving it usually stays in the middle. In warm weather they goes into the Hybrid mode quickly. In the warm weather I average about 38mpg as a mixture and highway and local driving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAlexS Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Here's a question for you guys; when the battery is at full charge, how many miles will the car go before switching back to the engine? For me, it seems that when it's full (or close to it) it will only drive about 2 miles before it drains its charge, with cruise control set at 45mph, and go back to engine. Is this normal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan_OH Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Yes, completely normal...2mi is outside of range on ev unless perfectly flat or slight downward grade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Once again, it’s not designed to stay in EV mode for extended periods nor should you try to force it. The system knows how best to utilize the battery power and sometimes the ICE is better. Just drive it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolder Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 The theory behind hybrids is to only run the ICE when there is significant demand. Acceleration, higher speed, Cat converter warm up, cabin warm up, hills, etc. At about 30 mph on level roads it will go about 1/2 mile in EV and then about 1/2 mile on ICE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZGW Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 So happy to have found this fix and breathed life into our 12 year old 2010 Fusion battery which looked charged but was never in use anymore. I was in the process of trying to find a source for a replacement battery when I came upon this suggestion and figured it was worth the try for $25. Thank you Allen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nav2102 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 I will be doing this method soon. So after two years since this method published, Is your car still good and no problem at all and do ev still works as great when you did this method? thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolder Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Nobody has reported a problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvain Menard Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I wonder if the procedure could give back some capacity to my ford C Max Energi 2014? From full charge to empty, I get around 3.8kwh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulGo Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 17 hours ago, Sylvain Menard said: I wonder if the procedure could give back some capacity to my ford C Max Energi 2014? From full charge to empty, I get around 3.8kwh. The procedure only works for 2010 to to 2012 Ford hybrids. These cars were not properly programmed to maintain the hybrid functionality after nine years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm659er Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I would also like to buy you a beer, allen84. I just applied your fix yesterday. Thanks so much for the detailed instructions! I'm looking forward to hyper-mileing again. I wish I would have searched you out two years ago when the dealer told me Ford "had no fix at this time." Please send me compensation instructions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len smith Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM FOR THE INFO HOW TO RESET THE E-V BATTERY ON MY 2012 FORDFUSION HYBRID WITH 240,000KM...IT ONLY TOOK 10min. TO CHANGE THE CODE TO 1yr. ..THE FORD DEALER WANTED $160. PLUS TAX...THE OBD PLUS 1yr. LIC. WITH FORSCAN COST $50..THE FORD DEALER COULD HAVE DONE THIS IN 5min. AND THEy WANTED $160 PLUS NOW I HAVE MY OWN OBD FOR ANY FUTURE WORK...MY HYBRID NOW WORKS PERFECT BETTER THAN WHEN I BOUGHT 3yr. AGO WITH 90,000km...I DRIVE RIDE SHARE NEARLY EVERY DAY THATS WHY THE MILAGE IS UP..WHO KNOWS IT MIGHT LAST ANOTHER 100,000-200,000km.. THIS VEHICLE HAS PAID FOR ITS SELF 15 TIMES OVER AND WITH THE NEW RESET I AM NOW A HAPPY DRIVER.......MERRY CHRISTMAS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cgimler95 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 8/13/2019 at 6:17 PM, mmtphoto said: on a Autel MS 808 scanner there is a function for battery-with it plugged in and matched to the vin, you go into battery rebalance (battery has to be between 60 and 104 degrees I think) you have to run the car at idle while the computer rebalances the batteries-it takes about 45 minutes, and I sat through three different Hybrid Fords doing this before I changed the year to '1' using Forscan (after the rebalance)- they are all like new now, dramatically better than before. Hi, I'm not sure if you'll see this but I was reading on this thread and while I was successful in changing the year of the hybrid battery to year 1, per the OP's original steps. However, and what I've noticed is not everyone is following the steps for rebalancing, which I came to realize is an expensive step unless you or someone you know owns a scanner tool like the Autel. So luckily I had a friend that had an Autel, and I tried to go to the rebalance section, and it gave me "rmode - unknown state." Then it'll say that the reason it wasn't able to run the rebalance was either 1. hybrid battery temp range needed to be 15 to 49 Celsius (mine was at 32, so that wasn't the issue), fault detected (which the reason I think its failing from a fault is my airbag light is on and I need to take care of the recall, pending doing that to see if that helps). That being said, I'll update my post if the airbag recall fix will make a difference. Otherwise, if you have any additional advice on what I can do different, I couldn't think of any other way to engage the rebalance. Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolder Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 12/6/2021 at 8:02 PM, Cgimler95 said: Hi, I'm not sure if you'll see this but I was reading on this thread and while I was successful in changing the year of the hybrid battery to year 1, per the OP's original steps. However, and what I've noticed is not everyone is following the steps for rebalancing, which I came to realize is an expensive step unless you or someone you know owns a scanner tool like the Autel. So luckily I had a friend that had an Autel, and I tried to go to the rebalance section, and it gave me "rmode - unknown state." Then it'll say that the reason it wasn't able to run the rebalance was either 1. hybrid battery temp range needed to be 15 to 49 Celsius (mine was at 32, so that wasn't the issue), fault detected (which the reason I think its failing from a fault is my airbag light is on and I need to take care of the recall, pending doing that to see if that helps). That being said, I'll update my post if the airbag recall fix will make a difference. Otherwise, if you have any additional advice on what I can do different, I couldn't think of any other way to engage the rebalance. Thanks! You don't need to balance the HVB manually, the car does it automatically periodically. You can tell when it's doing this by the EV mode being inhibited for about 20 minutes, the ICE running continuously and the HVB charging to max. When it's finished it reverts to normal operation. If you go into reverse during this procedure it is cancelled and will probably do it over. Most who have done the software update say re-balancing occurs sometime after. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drpotatoes Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I, like hundreds of others here, want to thank Allen84 for posting this solution. Worked like a charm for me, and not hard at all to implement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmtphoto Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/6/2021 at 8:02 PM, Cgimler95 said: Hi, I'm not sure if you'll see this but I was reading on this thread and while I was successful in changing the year of the hybrid battery to year 1, per the OP's original steps. However, and what I've noticed is not everyone is following the steps for rebalancing, which I came to realize is an expensive step unless you or someone you know owns a scanner tool like the Autel. So luckily I had a friend that had an Autel, and I tried to go to the rebalance section, and it gave me "rmode - unknown state." Then it'll say that the reason it wasn't able to run the rebalance was either 1. hybrid battery temp range needed to be 15 to 49 Celsius (mine was at 32, so that wasn't the issue), fault detected (which the reason I think its failing from a fault is my airbag light is on and I need to take care of the recall, pending doing that to see if that helps). That being said, I'll update my post if the airbag recall fix will make a difference. Otherwise, if you have any additional advice on what I can do different, I couldn't think of any other way to engage the rebalance. Thanks! the rebalance done by the autel ms808 takes about 45 minutes and has to be done between the temps of 60F and 102F. if during the test the battery temp monitor reads temps outside these numbers, the test will stop. As Loder said, the vehicle will periodically do this on it's own although it is infrequent and I suspect unless the vehicle is driven in excess of 45 minutes it will not complete. the scanner itself is about $200 so it is not crazy expensive. I use it for most newer cars as it does some two way communication and really scans virtually all modules and does some things that less expensive units won't do. I did the 'Allen' fix (he should forever get credit for this) about 2 years ago, and recently replaced the throttle body and S1B1 O2 sensor so I did the rebalance to complete the 'tune-up' and have been hovering around 38 MPG since. I'm now at 122,000 on my 2010 hybrid, and it doesn't leak a drop of fluid, runs great and I will drive it until the wheels fall off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xns916 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 14 hours ago, mmtphoto said: the rebalance done by the autel ms808 takes about 45 minutes and has to be done between the temps of 60F and 102F. if during the test the battery temp monitor reads temps outside these numbers, the test will stop. As Loder said, the vehicle will periodically do this on it's own although it is infrequent and I suspect unless the vehicle is driven in excess of 45 minutes it will not complete. the scanner itself is about $200 so it is not crazy expensive. I use it for most newer cars as it does some two way communication and really scans virtually all modules and does some things that less expensive units won't do. I did the 'Allen' fix (he should forever get credit for this) about 2 years ago, and recently replaced the throttle body and S1B1 O2 sensor so I did the rebalance to complete the 'tune-up' and have been hovering around 38 MPG since. I'm now at 122,000 on my 2010 hybrid, and it doesn't leak a drop of fluid, runs great and I will drive it until the wheels fall off. I've done the Allen fix as well. I remember in the past the car doing the rebalancing itself but it's been over a year now for me and the car hasn't rebalanced at all I think as of right now my MPG average is 30.3, which is actually worse than when I did the fix. Before the fix I was getting about 32/ 33 MPG. After the fix my MPG went up maybe a couple and now it's really down. So I'm guessing I need to have a rebalance? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asicking Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 These numbers, in the 30s are very surprising to me. My 2010 hybrid dropped to the mid-30s BEFORE I applied the fix about 2 years ago then jumped to low 40s for the almost 75k miles I drove following the fix. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulGo Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I did the fix on my two vehicles about 18 months ago. During the summer I get about 38mpg and less in the winter months which is what I was getting when the original programming was working. For the time before I discovered the fix my mileage was in the low 30s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmtphoto Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 14 hours ago, asicking said: These numbers, in the 30s are very surprising to me. My 2010 hybrid dropped to the mid-30s BEFORE I applied the fix about 2 years ago then jumped to low 40s for the almost 75k miles I drove following the fix. we bought ours used in 2017 at around 90,000 miles. it was getting around 35-36 then, until 2019 when the computer decided to negate battery participation-allen's fix applied and it's in the high 30's most of the time, not bad for an 11 year old 3700 lb.car with 122m on the clock.we just drive, we generally do not hyper-mile. occasionally see tanks close to 40. great car. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asicking Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 My car had 250K+ miles on it BEFORE I tweaked it. It was getting fuel efficiency in the 40s when I traded it in with 380K miles. I don’t hypermile but I am mindful. Maybe that’s the difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewbabich Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 I have reset battery age on a few of my fusion hybrids in the past (probably last done summer of 2020) using these great instructions but tonight I got denied as told me "Sorry, you need an extended license to run this function" It told me this after I pressed the PLAY button in the BECM in the CONFIGURATION AND PROGRAMMING function. Anyone else ever have this issue? Do I need to reload all the forscan software and licensing ? I can still use it to reset DTC codes which is invaluable when my power steering goes out. .. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewbabich Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 I have reset battery age on a few of my fusion hybrids in the past (probably last done summer of 2020) using these great instructions but tonight I got denied as told me "Sorry, you need an extended license to run this function" It told me this after I pressed the PLAY button in the BECM in the CONFIGURATION AND PROGRAMMING function. Anyone else ever have this issue? Do I need to reload all the forscan software and licensing ? I can still use it to reset DTC codes which is invaluable when my power steering goes out. .. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewbabich Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Whoops. I guess my license file just expired after my free trial period. Silly me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Dev Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Does anybody know of any mechanic in San Diego County that can perform this on my 2012 Ford Fusion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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