Pers69 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Let us know if you see anything different. I'm curious if the headlamp replacement will improve the night time output. I hate halogens, and I can't even replace the bulbs myself because the way the assembly is installed. Can't figure out how to get the dam things out. http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/52116-how-to-remove-front-bumper-headlight-ford-fusion-2013/ Nmadole posted the means to replace bulbs on blueovalforums - isn't simple :-(. Anyway - there is the step by step instructions ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdh79 Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 Thanks alot for that link. What a lifesaver. I'll definitely be upgrading my bulbs or go to the next step and get HID's from this site which I confirmed with them they will work. http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=3955 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelkol Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I did some research on changing to HID and the bottom line was that the reflectors are different and you will get better light closer but it won't shine as far. Don't know if this is the case with the fusion or not 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdh79 Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Got my car back today. It's doing good so far. Still having a buggy issue with my fuel gauge not going all the way full instead to 3/4 full. Dealer said they couldn't reicate the problem. Figures. I'll take it back if it keeps doing it. I bought my HID kit. I'll post pics of the install and let you know how it goes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdii Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 This looks like a decent kit too. http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-HID-Kit-Slim-Ballast-35W-or-55W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osuffan Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Well, Just got my Fusion back after 21 days at the dealer. Was told there would be absolutely no difference in mpg, rpm, horsepower, etc. On a short trip which included highway, I reset the mpg as soon as I got on highway. Now, let me say that when we drove the car from Columbus, OH to Chicago I got 40 mpg on the highway. Today, on the highway, I got 28 mpg. Will take car out for extended test drive tomorrow. Not happy so far. Something has been changed. I think I also have the fuel gauge/tank issue other people have mentioned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmickk Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) I'm being told something very different. The Service Tech here is telling me they have the fix for the Escape but not for the Fusion! edit: I just sent an inquiry to Ford to see what they say. Something seem out of place. Hope to hear back from them soon. Edited December 29, 2012 by mmickk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I'm being told something very different. The Service Tech here is telling me they have the fix for the Escape but not for the Fusion! edit: I just sent an inquiry to Ford to see what they say. Something seem out of place. Hope to hear back from them soon. To fix the Fusion they have to have a more recent update of software in their equipment. If your dealership doesn't have that update then that might explain what they're saying, but it means THEY don't have the fix, not that the fix isn't available. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osuffan Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Update on my Fusion...Recall repair(s) have been completed. Still think there is an issue with mpg. Maybe someone with more knowledge on an engine can comment. How can you take an engine that has been set to achieve the maximum efficiency at the factory, and then change the computer to not allow the engine to run as hot and not change the specs of the engine? From what the service manager told me was that the coolant flow was changed. The reason that there were fires is that the engine got so hot that the engine seals were breached and the oil started leaking onto the extremely hot engine and ignited. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Update on my Fusion...Recall repair(s) have been completed. Still think there is an issue with mpg. Maybe someone with more knowledge on an engine can comment. How can you take an engine that has been set to achieve the maximum efficiency at the factory, and then change the computer to not allow the engine to run as hot and not change the specs of the engine? From what the service manager told me was that the coolant flow was changed. The reason that there were fires is that the engine got so hot that the engine seals were breached and the oil started leaking onto the extremely hot engine and ignited. Don't believe everything a dealer tells you. They didn't change the engine operating temperature and there was never an oil leak - it was antifreeze that leaked out and started the fires. All they did was change the programming to avoid a condition where a valve was open or closed and shouldn't have been. This should not affect fuel economy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The overheating condition only happened when there wasn't enough pressure in the system, caused by some sort of leak. The computer reprogramming just changes the coolant flow so that the engine can detect that loss of pressure sooner and prevent the extreme overheating that leads to fires. In normal operating conditions with full pressure, there is no difference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pers69 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 What area was prone to leaking and what have they done to prevent such leaks I wonder? I agree it is reasonable to reprogram the coolant flow to prevent overheating/fires as a fail safe if such conditions arise but I do not understand what they have done to directly address the underlying "leak" issue. Anyone know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 What area was prone to leaking and what have they done to prevent such leaks I wonder? I agree it is reasonable to reprogram the coolant flow to prevent overheating/fires as a fail safe if such conditions arise but I do not understand what they have done to directly address the underlying "leak" issue. Anyone know? It was probably just a part that wasn't tightened properly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdii Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 The Ecoboost turbo is water cooled, and uses valves to regulate the coolant flow around the turbos. My guess is not enough coolant was flowing around the turbo and what was there overheated and outgassed, POOF, fire. Should not impact fuel economy unless the turbos are colder now, and dont provide the proper boost. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmickk Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I picked up mine today, one day shy of five weeks. I only put about 10 miles on it getting home from the dealership but everything seems just fine. I had to reset everything again but no big deal there. One thing I noticed was that steering seemed a bit less quick. That may be due to driving a new f-150 the last five weeks and I got used to that. Probably my imagination but it seems just a bit heaver in feel. Doesn't bother me because i felt it was a bit too quick before. Just glad to have it back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCRIDER Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I've had mine back a couple weeks now. The reprogram was fairly quick, though I was in a plain-jane rental. With about 1,500 total miles on the car (1.6EB and 6-speed manual) I'm averaging 31.7 MPG, mostly commuting 35 miles each way to work. Some highway (up to 80 MPH) some stop and go, some urban driving. I've had the instant fuel economy gauge up, and try to drive with a light foot to keep the gauge maximized, but there is usually a once or twice daily freeway merge at full throttle. :-) The MFT was upgraded when the engine programming was done. No other issues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdii Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Still waiting on the MFT update to be available here. When the SM looked it up in the system, it had no update information available, nor do they have any of the S4 cards. (S4?, whatever the card is called.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 No need to use the dealer, you can get everything online and they'll send you the new card in the mail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 No need to use the dealer, you can get everything online and they'll send you the new card in the mail. That's what I keep hearing but when I log into syncmyride.com I don't see that option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdii Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 That's what I keep hearing but when I log into syncmyride.com I don't see that option. ^this^ Not only this, but the update checker fails too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdh79 Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 Just use my link on the first page to do it yourself. It's very easy. Just have to hit ok through the first screens then it runs on its own. Takes about 45min. The Sd card you'll have to get from the dealer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Just use my link on the first page to do it yourself. It's very easy. Just have to hit ok through the first screens then it runs on its own. Takes about 45min. The Sd card you'll have to get from the dealer. That's the problem - dealer doesn't have any SD cards (according to salesman - I'll check myself later). I was hoping to be able to order the SD card through the website and do it myself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoors35 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I know how aggravating it is to have to keep taking your car back to the dealer. I gave the Domestics another chance in late 2009 and bought a 2010 Fusion, and have had several problems with it. $652 to replace a bad throttle body, requiring a tow, broken fuel filler door spring, gurgling sound under dash, squeaky HVAC blower motor, bad power window motor, and several repairs to the transmission. It still does not shift as smooth as our Altima and Frontier did, but according to two dealers, it's as good as it's going to get. Wifey has had enough and wants to trade it for a Camry, and I agree. We're going to cut our losses. Buying American is good for the economy, but I have to think about my economy first. I hope Ford can get ahead of these problems, and I wish the best to them and the other Domestic manufacturers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Good luck with the Camry, but note that Toyota just issued a recall that included over 1 million vehicles for the third time since October! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outdoors35 Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Thanks Waldo. I saw that on Yahoo the other day. I don't think the Camry was on the list of recalled vehicles, but I would think it shares components with the Corolla. Maybe they'll have it figured out by the time we buy. It seems to me that the mainstream media didn't give that recall as much coverage as it does when the domestics have a recall. Wifey's side of the family all drive Hondas and they swear by them, so we'll research Hondas too. Whatever I buy, I'll keep this forum posted as to how reliable (or not) it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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