21152Hybrid Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Couple of comments here that I need help with. I'm not a car (engine) guy - so excuse my ignorance. I own a 2011 Fusion Hybrid. 1) With non-hybrid cars, I've always let the engine 'warm up' a minute or so to let the oil circulate through-out the engine for protection, before putting any load on it. With my hybrid, I start my car - but the engine doesnt come on until I press the gas/put a load on it (in winter the engine starts right away due to low temp). Just curious - is there a special technology that allows the hybrid engine to "lubricate faster" once I need the engine. There is one stretch on my commute that I can stay in EV mode for about a mile and a half... and it's always in the back of my head that when I need the engine to help me up the hill... that the oil is "not where its needed"... am I crazy? 2) again... Oil... the manual says change the oil every 10,000 - does this number vary depending on how many miles the engine wasnt on? I check my oil level every time I get fuel... and it's never low or in need of any additional oil... and after 5000 miles after my last oil change my oil life reads 71%... letting me to believe that the oil will last longer than 10k... scares me to run on oil for 10k miles!.... but my wallet and back appreciate it! Any comfort knowledge is appreciated! -JG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyross Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 There is no real need to let a car warm up for more than a few seconds, except maybe in extreme cold (sub-zero Fahrenheit.) It's very light 5W-20 oil (at least in my 2011), and should start flowing pretty fast. I generally start my car, put on my seat belt, and go. The car still barely goes above an idle for awhile as I have to back up and then drive through the parking lot (apartment complex.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolder Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 When you change the oil every 10,000 miles, the oil life should be reset to 100% in the menu tree. You will get a message center warning after 9500 miles to change the oil soon that you have to reset every time you start the car. Don't worry about the oil when the ICE is not running. You don't have to warm up any modern cars. Get in it and drive. I believe the oil life is predicated solely on mileage in your car unless the manual says it has an intelligent oil life monitor. I have over 70,000 miles on a 2010 and I can never see any oil consumption in a 10,000 mile oil change interval. Never overfill the oil. If it is over the top mark it should be drained to the mark. Halfway between the two marks is the best place. If the oil is at the top mark or even slightly below, it is possible to blow out a lot of white smoke with a full throttle acceleration in a right turn such as entering an old northeastern expressway with very short on ramps. It is not harmful but is a minor design defect. The CEL may come on briefly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey14SE Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Oil technology (synthetic and regular alike) has come a long way in recent years. So has engine technology and building tolerances. The warm-up time really isnt necessary on modern vehicles. The oil change minder takes a lot more than simply mileage into account. 10,000 miles should be the longest interval it will give. It uses a number of factors like vehicle speed, throttle position, ambient temperature, and a lot of other things into account for the actual life it displays. Im still somewhat old-school, and I trust it but only to a point. Once I reach 5-6000 miles I change it anyways. But thats just for my own piece-of-mind, I just cant bring myself to go 10K miles without an oil change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolder Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 This is a hybrid forum and the 2010-12 FFH's oil minder is strictly a mileage based reminder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogo88 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 In the winter here in NJ once I turn the key the motor starts in a second or two. When the weather is warm, it usually starts when I back up out of the driveway. Dan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolder Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 It starts in the winter because of the cabin heater setting demands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogo88 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I didn't know that. Good to know. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolder Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 These are the reasons the ICE may run from page 5 of the Owners Guide Considerable acceleration or ascending a hill Speed above 45 mph HVB charge low Extreme outside temperature ICE not warm enough to provide cabin heating In addition there are three more: Evaporative emissions check for about 30 seconds after start up and moving car Speed above 12 mph when ICE is cold until dash temperature bulb symbol turns green HVB re-conditioning which occurs periodically about once a year which charges the HVB fully and lasts about 20 minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wofam Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I have 4000 miles on my 2011 Ford Fusion Hybrid since my last oil change and the oil minder says to change oil. The car has 40,000 miles on it. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, if I wait to change the oil at 10,000 miles, how can I reset the oil minder? Is it safe to trust Oil Changers or Jiffy Lube? I've had all the previous service done at a Ford dealship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolder Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 With the left steering wheel buttons select "Set Up", "Vehicle Settings", scroll down to "Oil Life" and reset to 60% ( 6,000 miles ). The reminder will come on in about 5500 miles. When you change the oil again, reset it to 100% ( 10,000 miles ) which is what the maintenance schedule calls for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogo88 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I have 4000 miles on my 2011 Ford Fusion Hybrid since my last oil change and the oil minder says to change oil. The car has 40,000 miles on it. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, if I wait to change the oil at 10,000 miles, how can I reset the oil minder? Is it safe to trust Oil Changers or Jiffy Lube? I've had all the previous service done at a Ford dealship. I only use the dealer. With Ford's The Works package it's $39 or less for oil change and tire rotation. Way to many bad stories with Jiffy Lube and the others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolder Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 A few years ago, Ford's Quicklane refused to rotate a tire because it had a plug in it and wanted $250 to replace it. They also overfilled and overcharged me for oil and I had to have another mechanic drain some. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermans Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Good lesson...always check your oil after an oil change. I've had Ford dealers put in too much oil and not enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junehhan Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 What I have found with these newer engines is that you cannot get an accurate dipstick reading immediately after filling the engine with oil. I have found that you need to let the engine sit at least 10-20 minutes to allow for all of the oil to drain into the pan. When you take your vehicle in for routine maintenance, they often do not have the time to dedicate to a single oil change and thus I have seen engines both get under filled of over filled(mostly overfilled). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 If one took their car to Ford for oil changes, and it was overfilled by Ford, Who would pay for damages (if any) caused by overfilling the oil? Provided one kept all the receipts for the service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Technically you didn't take it to Ford - you took it to a dealer who sells and services Fords. The dealer should cover it if they overfilled it. Whether Ford reimburses the dealer under warranty or not is between the dealer and Ford. But from your standpoint it's the dealer's fault not Ford. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Look at it this way. If you bought a Sony TV from Best Buy and the Best Buy delivery guy dropped it - would you expect Sony to pay for it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Sorry for the confusion. I did mean the dealership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saste044 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I recently became aware of this forum and I am very greatful. I have a 2014 ffh with just over 30k miles. I have had three oil changes with the same dealership that I bought the car from. On the paperwork they used 6 quarts of oil and didn't fill out inspection paperwork. I told the garage manager, he said no big deal offered free oil change. General manager didn't even return my call/complaint. Suggestions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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