marbles Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I have 2007 sel fusion v6. I like the extra passing power a v6 ads to my commuter...i won't need an upgrade for few years but I was looking through 2016 line up and no v6..I wonder if they will stay with 2.0 litre turbo engine as there top H. P producer. Just when I find something I like they go and change it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyross Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 There is a Fusion ST rumored to be coming, and it will probably have the 2.7L EcoBoost V6. Otherwise, you can look at the related Lincoln MKZ, which offers a 300hp 3.7L V6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 How many horsepower is speculated? Why a 2.7 and would it be a ford built engine? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The 2.7L is already available in the Edge and F150. It's a twin turbo V6 with 350 hp. Go do some research on ford.com. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 BTW - the current 2.0L EB has more power than your 3.0L V6. I replaced a 2006 3.0L with a 2013 2.0LEB and it performs better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Sorry for lack of knowledge on the subject. I actually looked around on the net for answers so I would not clog up the forum with information that folks probably know already. I see that 2.0 litre turbo is few ponys higher in power .I am not huge fan of the turbo, I have one obviously on my Duramax that hasn't given me any issue's but I know that when it does it won't be cheap. You can barely access bolts and line 'snot to mention replacement cost of the turbo itself..i have few friends with turbo charger on the vw and two have been replaced on there tdi, hopefully ford has there new ecoboost 2.0 litre dialed in.I remember the nightmare the 6.4 turbo had before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 These engines were designed with turbos from day one. They've been using ecoboost engines in many vehicles (including 70% of all F150s) for years now with no more problems reported than non-turbo engines. The 3.5L ecoboost in the F150 is tested to 250k miles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbles Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Thats great thanks for the information akirby 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 The turbos themselves are also not the same as the ones from 10-20 years ago. They use smaller turbos and ceramics with enhanced cooling - makes a huge difference in longevity and reliability. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuratorqSupporter Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) There is a Fusion ST rumored to be coming, and it will probably have the 2.7L EcoBoost V6. Otherwise, you can look at the related Lincoln MKZ, which offers a 300hp 3.7L V6. Ok, I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but the only place that has rumored an ST variant of the Fusion is Motortrend, and even that is complete speculation because they saw a Fusion with 4 exhaust tips. I get why people would be excited, because Ford's ST line is absolutely cracking fun; however I don't think that you can fall fanboys speculating a rumor. I draw issue with that, similar to the way that we have that obnoxious banner on this forum that claims that it (the Fusion ST) is coming. Go look at the forum, all it is is people asking if anyone knows anything and speculating between what engines would go into it and posts of renderings of what some automotive artists THINK the Fusion ST would look like. Fact of the matter is, there is no concrete proof that it is coming, although I think it would be nice if Ford included the 3.7L V6 in the Fusion lineup as these cars are pretty heavy, even in FWD guise. However, I don't think Ford will be putting anything with more than 4 cylinders into the Fusion anytime soon, just due to the new direction the company has been heading in since 2010, downsizing engine displacement and adding turbos.... now if they could implement good weight savings, which they have been toying with. Edited October 9, 2015 by DuratorqSupporter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyross Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Another choice might be the 2.3L EcoBoost, which is around 300hp, depending on the application. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Ok, I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but the only place that has rumored an ST variant of the Fusion is Motortrend, and even that is complete speculation because they saw a Fusion with 4 exhaust tips. I get why people would be excited, because Ford's ST line is absolutely cracking fun; however I don't think that you can fall fanboys speculating a rumor. I draw issue with that, similar to the way that we have that obnoxious banner on this forum that claims that it (the Fusion ST) is coming. Go look at the forum, all it is is people asking if anyone knows anything and speculating between what engines would go into it and posts of renderings of what some automotive artists THINK the Fusion ST would look like. Fact of the matter is, there is no concrete proof that it is coming, although I think it would be nice if Ford included the 3.7L V6 in the Fusion lineup as these cars are pretty heavy, even in FWD guise. However, I don't think Ford will be putting anything with more than 4 cylinders into the Fusion anytime soon, just due to the new direction the company has been heading in since 2010, downsizing engine displacement and adding turbos.... now if they could implement good weight savings, which they have been toying with. Fact of the matter is some of us have sources other than Motortrend confirming that it's coming in a few months....... and the person who owns these websites talks to Ford before creating a new one.........lincolncontinentalforum.com was created months before the new Continental was announced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuratorqSupporter Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Fact of the matter is some of us have sources other than Motortrend confirming that it's coming in a few months....... and the person who owns these websites talks to Ford before creating a new one.........lincolncontinentalforum.com was created months before the new Continental was announced. Fact of the matter is also that Ford loves the ability to tease a launch, especially on its' driver oriented vehicles. If the Fusion ST was in fact going to production in a few months as you have claimed, Ford would have put out an ad, a photo, a rumor, or something. It builds hype and allows Ford to put pricing in their favor during the launch. Ford has, as of yet, not even made a peep about a thought towards a sports oriented Fusion. As for the lincolncontinentalforum.com isn't a forum... and on top of that there has been a continental produced prior to that so I'm sure there are forums about the car out there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Sorry - it's lincolncontinentalforum.net and it was set up by Robert Lane months ago. I didn't say the fusion ST was going into production in a few months - I said we would see it either at SEMA, the LA auto show or Detroit. Mark my words. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetty Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 A number of sources have the Fusion ST spy shots not just Motor Trend. And since when was Motor Trend not a reputable source? Ford Performance said they want 12 Performance vehicles by 2020. It would make sense for the Fusion to be one of them. I could see the 2.3L ecoboost or the 2.7L ecoboost as the powerplant. Motor trend is saying the 2.7 with an auto and generally they would get more info than the average Joe. Especially for performance vehicles.. It's a car guy product and most car guys pay attention to motor trend so it would make sense of Ford gave them a rid-bit of off the record info. Also Ford has made the Mondeo ST200 and ST220 in the past in Europe. I could see them doing it again. I also don't think it would be anything like a M3 killer but more of a cheaper alternative/bang for your buck car against the S4, 335i, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Best bet is the 2.7L EB automatic straight from the Edge Sport. A 2.3L EB manual from the Focus RS would be fantastic but less likely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuratorqSupporter Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 A number of sources have the Fusion ST spy shots not just Motor Trend. And since when was Motor Trend not a reputable source? Ford Performance said they want 12 Performance vehicles by 2020. It would make sense for the Fusion to be one of them. I could see the 2.3L ecoboost or the 2.7L ecoboost as the powerplant. Motor trend is saying the 2.7 with an auto and generally they would get more info than the average Joe. Especially for performance vehicles.. It's a car guy product and most car guys pay attention to motor trend so it would make sense of Ford gave them a rid-bit of off the record info. Also Ford has made the Mondeo ST200 and ST220 in the past in Europe. I could see them doing it again. I also don't think it would be anything like a M3 killer but more of a cheaper alternative/bang for your buck car against the S4, 335i, etc. I'm not saying that Motor Trend is a bad source. I'm saying that they have a photo of a Fusion with 4 exhaust tips, and they proclaim it is the Fusion ST? I think people are forgetting the Fusion is up for an update soon, and sighting a Fusion with more aggressive finishes like 4 exhaust tips does not allow me to jump to the conclusion that it is a Fusion ST. I am aware they have had ST versions in the past. I am also aware that there is potential of them happening again, however most of the ST line was launched in Europe THEN brought over here. I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm saying that there is a very substantial lack of evidence currently. I also know about the 12 performance oriented vehicles by 2020. Currently, we have a Fiesta ST, a Focus ST, a Focus RS, a Shelby GT 350, and the venerable Ford GT. This leaves 7 cars, one of which is more than likely the GT500. Personally, I'd wager that a Fiesta RS is to follow at some point due to the community that has taken off around the Fiesta ST. Finally, we don't know if Ford considers all of the mustangs (v6, EB, GT) as performance cars that are filling gaps, which they might. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but as of right now all that is going around is a few photos and the all too obvious engine choices that everyone keeps reposting (as if no one else already knew...). As akirby said, time will tell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetty Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 They said in the motor trend article that the would expect the Fusion ST to be launched at the end of 2016 along side of the new Facelift of the regular Fusion. Looking at this article http://www.autoblog.com/2015/04/12/2017-ford-fusion-facelift-spy-shots/ It shows spy shots of the regular face lifted Fusion. Looks like the front and rear ends are covered just the like Fusion ST spy shots. The only difference is the quad exhaust, intercooler, bigger wheels and bigger brakes. Now let's look and compare the Ford Focus ST with the regular one. The differences seem to be.. exhaust, bigger wheels, and bigger brakes! Now in not saying it's a for sure thing but manufacturer wouldn't add big brakes to a face lift where they can only use 19" wheels. The base model fusion does not need giant brakes that can only fit behind a 19" wheels they would most likely use the same brakes as the previous year much like the 2010 facelift. There is just too many things that make it look like a performance car. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuratorqSupporter Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) They said in the motor trend article that the would expect the Fusion ST to be launched at the end of 2016 along side of the new Facelift of the regular Fusion. Looking at this article http://www.autoblog.com/2015/04/12/2017-ford-fusion-facelift-spy-shots/ It shows spy shots of the regular face lifted Fusion. Looks like the front and rear ends are covered just the like Fusion ST spy shots. The only difference is the quad exhaust, intercooler, bigger wheels and bigger brakes. Now let's look and compare the Ford Focus ST with the regular one. The differences seem to be.. exhaust, bigger wheels, and bigger brakes! Now in not saying it's a for sure thing but manufacturer wouldn't add big brakes to a face lift where they can only use 19" wheels. The base model fusion does not need giant brakes that can only fit behind a 19" wheels they would most likely use the same brakes as the previous year much like the 2010 facelift. There is just too many things that make it look like a performance car. Valid points, but these "Fusion ST" spy photos could also be spy photos of the Taurus which is supposed to be getting a redesign. Bigger wheels (19") is standard on the SHO.... Which imo should be the sport line for the fusion, as Ford started the midsize preformance sedan with the Taurus SHO and if they were to continue it on the Fusion I feel it would make sense. The SHO moniker that is... Edited October 11, 2015 by DuratorqSupporter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I think the 2017 fusion is due out next spring. I trust Robert Lane and my source. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuratorqSupporter Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) BTW - the current 2.0L EB has more power than your 3.0L V6. I replaced a 2006 3.0L with a 2013 2.0LEB and it performs better. According to car and driver, the Fusion with a v-6 is half a second quicker to 60 than an AWD equipped titanium. Unsure if the v6 they were comparing to had awd or not though. I think the 2017 fusion is due out next spring. I trust Robert Lane and my source. I don't know who Robert Lane is or why I should trust him, and I would take more stock in your source if he was a project engineer for Ford, but I understand that you need to keep it anonymous, so I guess at this point it is a waiting game. Edited October 11, 2015 by DuratorqSupporter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Robert owns all of these websites. He started the Lincoln Continental forum months before it was announced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetty Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Valid points, but these "Fusion ST" spy photos could also be spy photos of the Taurus which is supposed to be getting a redesign. Bigger wheels (19") is standard on the SHO.... Which imo should be the sport line for the fusion, as Ford started the midsize preformance sedan with the Taurus SHO and if they were to continue it on the Fusion I feel it would make sense. The SHO moniker that is... SHO makes sense, I wouldn't mind that or ST for a name. The photos look closer to the Fusion size, the Taurus is a pretty big car. Regardless time will tell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Taurus in NA continues on the current platform so that was definitely a Fusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuratorqSupporter Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Taurus in NA continues on the current platform so that was definitely a Fusion. But in China, its on a stretched Fusion platform, and since Ford is pursuing the One Ford strategy, it would make sense to me that the Taurus in China and the Taurus in the States will likely be at least based on one another. Either way, Ford could be testing a Chinese market spec Taurus here in the states, stranger things have happened. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a Fusion ST but my claims that the car in these photos could be a Chinese spec SHO rather than a Fusion have as much validity as the speculation that its a Fusion ST. We shall see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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