sconney Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I just picked up my 2016 Fusion AWD, 2.0 Ecoboost a month ago. The automatic seems anemic when you give it gas, almost hesitates for a second to "Think" about the next move. In Manual mode it drives fine. Do these cars creep off the line? The dealer said in the break in period the engine knows not to give it too much power under the break in miles? Does this seem correct? Could I have an issue with the car? Otherwise, love the car, handling and the AWD seems to really work well! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Stock, EB-coupled transmissions seem to have a "safety" factor built in from the factory. Basically a part of torque management, they want power delivery to not exceed the wheel & tire limits, while giving the transmission longevity. Remember that road conditions (rough surfaces, low temperatures, etc) are not always ideal, nor is it ideal for pedal-to-the-metal action until the engine and transmission are warmed up first. The usual "cure" has been to load a tune, update the OEM strategy, which provides better power delivery and crisper shift feel. But people who choose to tune their vehicles also take on more responsibility for when & where they choose to exercise their newfound power 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconney Posted May 1, 2016 Author Share Posted May 1, 2016 THANKS. Does this mean the car is programmed to not exceed a certain amount of Torque during warm up period of a new car? Does the computer change once I hit the mileage beyond that point? I have 950 on it now. Overall do most find this car to have no real pick up a go? Is the AWD system so heavy that it makes it anemic? I wonder if I could have a computer issue as it really hesitates even sometimes between shifts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I don't believe the strategy changes by mileage. I will say that the PCM is adaptive, learns the way you drive. So if you are taking it easy on the car right now, it's going to adapt to that and behave like it's on the porch sipping iced tea on a hot summer day. If you get into the throttle enough % of the time, the PCM will shift to a more aggressive mode, like a dog in pursuit of a squirrel. There's no breakin period per se with these engines, it's more about maintaining them on a proper schedule. Remember to use the Severe Duty schedule if you are generally leadfooted. EB engines like that, they really don't like lugging though (despite the "Eco" part of the label). Also, you do need to get into the throttle regularly to prevent carbon buildup on the backsides of the intake valves. That said, there can be faulty parts right out of the box, or there may be a recalibration available for the PCM, the dealer should install for free under the 3/36 warranty if so. Many times, it has turned out to be a hose that has popped off, usually on top of the engine somewhere rather than deep in its' guts. Ford doesn't always clamp the hoses in place. Be sure to use fuel from a high turnover gas station, preferably Top Tier. It DOES make a difference. Low quality fuel can also cause similar symptoms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 It does not change the shifting based on mileage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricFan69 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I just picked up my 2016 Fusion AWD, 2.0 Ecoboost a month ago. The automatic seems anemic when you give it gas, almost hesitates for a second to "Think" about the next move. In Manual mode it drives fine. Do these cars creep off the line? The dealer said in the break in period the engine knows not to give it too much power under the break in miles? Does this seem correct? Could I have an issue with the car? Otherwise, love the car, handling and the AWD seems to really work well! Every boosted engine will have a bit of 'turbo lag' when you're running at low revs - there isn't that much gas flow over the turbine at light load/low rev conditions. Keeps the revs > 2500 or so, the lag should be negligible. Throw in a shift map designed for minimizing fuel consumption, and the car may well feel a bit flat-footed when left to a 'default' map. If you have an aggressive right foot, the car should adjust to your driving style. Of course, manually keeping the revs up and hooning around will kick you in the $$$ at the pump. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Ford has actually done very well at minimizing the turbo lag issue by using smaller turbos that can spin up faster. So it's there, but imperceptibly so on these EB engines. sconney, do you have this hesitation even at the higher rpms ElectricFan69 suggested? Also, if you want to dig into how Ford controls various systems on the car, I find it very handy to look into the OBD operation manuals found at motorcraftservice.com. So for your 2016: https://www.motorcraftservice.com/freeresources/obd http://www.fordservicecontent.com/ford_content/catalog/motorcraft/OBDSM1604.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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