gtxtim Posted July 9, 2017 Author Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) Ok the chine does with the key on and open the door. And with the key on and in gear yes you can remove the key with it in gear without putting into park. Also no backup lights, ? I understand with the key on and press the brake pedal and the solenoid on the shifter will release and allow the shifter to move. But what keeps the key from being removed when the shifter is left in gear ? I assume that the key should not be removable in gear ? Is there a solenoid on the key assembly because I don't remember seeing one ? I really need to buy factory shop manuals. Edited July 9, 2017 by gtxtim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eGuru Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) There is a solenoid in the key assembly that prevents the key from being removed when the shifter is not in park. There should be a GY-BN wire running from the shifter connector to the key assembly connector. It provides a ground when not in park. A green wire from the shifter runs to the IC and provides a ground when the shifter is in park. Suspect this park switch or associated wiring is part of the problem. Edit: Don't worry about the reverse lights. Once the starting issue is resolved, the reverse lights should work. Edited July 9, 2017 by eGuru 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtxtim Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) Ok I'm going to try and explain what I found and add pictures as I go. I see that the shifter housing is damaged so I will get another one tomorrow. On the right side of the shifter I see a micro switch that tells the computer it's in park and in the front a solenoid to lock it in park, pictures 1 & 2. Now on to the column, I took off the ignition tumble and switch assembly, on the assembly in the center at top where the lock pin would be there is a fixed pice of plastic that does not move. On the assembly that I bought it has a pin it's from a 09 fusion however looking up at the column in the slot where the pin would lock into and turn the steering wheel completely there is no slot to lock into the shift ? The assembly with the black plastic is from my car. I looked up and down the column for a solenoid or cable to lock it and don't see how it lock the way it was. All I see on the column for switches are the ignition switch and the pats sensor to work with my fob. Maybe there is something missing I know someone tried to steal it, I was told that is where all the damage came from ? Why would it have a switch to tell it that it is in park and not lock the steering wheel ? Edited July 10, 2017 by gtxtim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 There's no steering wheel lock in these cars. See this thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtxtim Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 I don't get it, some say yes the shifter has to be in park to lock the steering column. And some say no they don't lock the column ? I'm having issues with something not allowing the pcm to send a - signal to the starter relay to start. ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 They removed the steering lock altogether at some point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtxtim Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 Problem solved thank you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eGuru Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Problem solved thank you Seriously!! A couple of dozen replies and hundreds of views for the thread you started and you don't tell us what was necessary to solve your problem? This kind of stuff turns me off from helping people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtxtim Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) I am sorry been working 16 hrs a day and was tired. I bought the factory wiring book for my vin and traced it out to : 1 a bad ground by pcm 2 neutral safety switch faulty 3 I replaced the starter relay in the sjb It starts now but when I checked those things before they tested good. The more I look at electrical on this car I think this car has been under water just to many tattletale signs There is a lot that is oxidized and corroded for the electrical Edited July 26, 2017 by gtxtim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eGuru Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I am sorry been working 16 hrs a day and was tired. I bought the factory wiring book for my vin and traced it out to : 1 a bad ground by pcm 2 neutral safety switch faulty 3 I replaced the starter relay in the sjb It starts now but when I checked those things before they tested good. The more I look at electrical on this car I think this car has been under water just to many tattletale signs There is a lot that is oxidized and corroded for the electrical Thanks for the feedback. Hope you overcome any remaining issues due to whatever shenanigans the vehicle has suffered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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