OzzyNF Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 i got that code on my 2010 fusion yesterday but i don't know how to check the fluid as i don't see a reservoir... do i replace the sensor? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 There is no fluid/reservoir. Your Fusion has electric power assist steering (EPAS). The system has detected a problem. If you haven't yet, you may lose all power steering assist soon. Per your owners manual: Quote STEERING 2.5L I4 engine and 3.0L V6 Duratec engine:Your vehicle is equipped with an Electric Power Steering (EPS) system. There is no fluid reservoir to check or fill. Quote WARNING:If the message SERVICE POWER STEERING is displayed in the message center, the EPS has detected a problem with the system function. On the next key cycle the message SERVICE POWER STEERING NOW will be displayed and steering assist will be removed until the steering system is serviced. Have your vehicle taken to the nearest dealer as soon as possible. Replacing sensors without knowing what the problem is potentially throwing away money. What sensor would you replace anyway? Search the forums and you'll find plenty of discussions regarding this problem. You will probably need to take the car to a dealer or well-equipped shop to read the codes and diagnose your power steering problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyross Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 There was a recall on many Fusions dealing with possible problems. I think it was mainly software, but the dealer was also supposed to check other sensors to make certain they were working correctly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 9 hours ago, andyross said: There was a recall on many Fusions dealing with possible problems. I think it was mainly software, but the dealer was also supposed to check other sensors to make certain they were working correctly. The recall applied to 2011-2013 Fusions. Unfortunately, the OP's car is a 2010. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyNF Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 i ran a diagnostic on the car and it said it was the angle sensor?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbf2530 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, OzzyNF said: i ran a diagnostic on the car and it said it was the angle sensor?? Hi Ozzy. Then there is a good chance it is the "angle sensor". There is usually a DTC code. Then there is a troubleshooting tree to follow in order to narrow down the fault. If you provide the DTC code (or Google it yourself), someone here may be able to point you in a direction, or at least provide a start to the troubleshooting tree. Good luck. Edited July 16, 2020 by bbf2530 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyNF Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 so i can't just buy the angle sensor? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyNF Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, bbf2530 said: Hi Ozzy. Then there is a good chance it is the "angle sensor". There is usually a DTC code. Then there is a troubleshooting tree to follow in order to narrow down the fault. If you provide the DTC code (or Google it yourself), someone here may be able to point you in a direction, or at least provide a start to the troubleshooting tree. Good luck. so i can't just buy the angle sensor? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbf2530 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 51 minutes ago, OzzyNF said: so i can't just buy the angle sensor? Hi Ozzy. It is your car and you can do whatever you please. Unfortunately, we can not fully/properly diagnose the car over the Internet. However, if the "angle sensor" is not the problem (which is entirely possible), then you wasted your money. That is what people call "Throwing parts at the problem". You should have hopefully pulled a DTC code. That would help with a proper diagnosis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyNF Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, bbf2530 said: Hi Ozzy. It is your car and you can do whatever you please. Unfortunately, we can not fully/properly diagnose the car over the Internet. However, if the "angle sensor" is not the problem (which is entirely possible), then you wasted your money. That is what people call "Throwing parts at the problem". You should have hopefully pulled a DTC code. That would help with a proper diagnosis. i think i wrote down the DTC code.. i will get it for ya a paste it shortly.. thanks again for the help 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eGuru Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 As a first step, check for corrosion of the connector for the steering motor. Definitely find the DTC and follow up with the troubleshooting steps before random parts replacement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyNF Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 7 hours ago, eGuru said: As a first step, check for corrosion of the connector for the steering motor. D-efinitely find the DTC and follow up with the troubleshooting steps before random parts replacement. Heres the codes .. C1277-20 C 1963-20 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eGuru Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I don't see where you tell us about the engine size in your 2010. You might find these pinpoint tests useful even if they are for 2012MY 3.0L p1277 12 fusion.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyNF Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 3 hours ago, eGuru said: I don't see where you tell us about the engine size in your 2010. You might find these pinpoint tests useful even if they are for 2012MY 3.0L p1277 12 fusion.pdf shes the 3.0L 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyNF Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 Quote anybody know the part number for an angle sensor? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbf2530 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, OzzyNF said: Hi Ozzy. Sometimes, it is simply quicker and safer to call or stop by your Ford Dealer's Parts Department and ask them for the correct part number for your particular vehicle. To ensure you get the correct part number, the person giving you the part number would need your VIN and access to the Ford parts database. Just winging it for a 2010 3.0L could wind up costing you money. Good luck. Edited July 31, 2020 by bbf2530 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eGuru Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 hours ago, OzzyNF said: If you read the pdf, it tells you that the angle sensor is located inside the EPAS itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyNF Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 8:43 PM, eGuru said: If you read the pdf, it tells you that the angle sensor is located inside the EPAS itself. On 7/30/2020 at 8:15 PM, bbf2530 said: Hi Ozzy. Sometimes, it is simply quicker and safer to call or stop by your Ford Dealer's Parts Department and ask them for the correct part number for your particular vehicle. To ensure you get the correct part number, the person giving you the part number would need your VIN and access to the Ford parts database. Just winging it for a 2010 3.0L could wind up costing you money. Good luck. on a 2010 fusion the dealership told me i would have to replace the full rack and pinion in the car, i hope there is another alternative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eGuru Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 56 minutes ago, OzzyNF said: on a 2010 fusion the dealership told me i would have to replace the full rack and pinion in the car, i hope there is another alternative. Did you check for a corroded connector and chafed cable as previously suggested? You didn't respond to my previous post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyNF Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 On 8/5/2020 at 4:14 PM, eGuru said: Did you check for a corroded connector and chafed cable as previously suggested? You didn't respond to my previous post. im not sure if the mechanic checked it or not but we changed the Rack and the light went off.. but now its back on and power steering is gone again! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eGuru Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 11/24/2020 at 6:41 PM, OzzyNF said: im not sure if the mechanic checked it or not but we changed the Rack and the light went off.. but now its back on and power steering is gone again! If the connector or wiring has been damaged then a new rack wouldn't solve the issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyNF Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 On 11/25/2020 at 10:12 PM, eGuru said: If the connector or wiring has been damaged then a new rack wouldn't solve the issue. took it to the garage. got it reprogrammed.. and it only lasted a day... light is no again and power steering is gone again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eueurb4bbf Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) Hello.. sorry for NECROing but we solved this issue on our 2010 fusion. First I cleaned the terminals and cables to the battery very well, then inflated the tire, then attached a ~400 dollar code scan tool from an autoparts store innova 5160RS. This solved our problem for now. We scanned and cleared all the codes and the esteering started no problem next crank. , Edited September 11, 2023 by eueurb4bbf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eueurb4bbf Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 No idea if this will last 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WKelley Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 36 minutes ago, eueurb4bbf said: No idea if this will last I hope it does, but it is very unlikely. Once high amperage electrical motors start to wear out there is no way to easily fix them. Believe me, I hope your car, but as a mechanic I can say that electrical problems never go away without a fight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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