Top Speed

[Legend717]

So I've got this nifty new 2010 four-banger six speed bolt action, and I'm trying to find out what it tops out at.

I googled it, but can't find any Ford-published numbers, or even any Car and Driver numbers?

 

Does anybody have any?

 

I was surprised yesterday when I got it up to a higher-than-expected speed, and yet it was still gaining when I ran out of road and had to quit.

[akirby]

Look up the speed rating on your tires - that's where the governor should kick in.

[1SLOPNY]

Hey, I know this might not be too much of a help, but I have an 06 3.0 with an automatic and even though the speedometer tops out at 120mph, it stops at about 110-115mph. Hope maybe this helps a little bit!!

[FtLewis2002]

Look up the speed rating on your tires - that's where the governor should kick in.

 

no no no no no...and no again. The governor setting is not based on what tires are on the car, and the tires on the car aren't based off of when the governor kicks in. The 1991 Escort GT came with "Z" rated tires, and it wasn't coming close to the need for those.

[DaveM]

no no no no no...and no again. The governor setting is not based on what tires are on the car, and the tires on the car aren't based off of when the governor kicks in. The 1991 Escort GT came with "Z" rated tires, and it wasn't coming close to the need for those.

So then how do they come up with the governed speed? A number of the HiPO GM cars are governed by the tires put on during manufacturing. For example my wife's STS didn't have the performance package so was govered at a lower top end eventhough there was no difference in equipment, only a heavier duty suppension and tires.

[Lone Wolff]

The tire speed ratings for any vehicle should exceed the top speed that the vehicle is capable of achieving by a considerable amount for liability/safety.

My motorcycle has W-rated tires(168mph). The top speed of the bike is limited by both a rev limiter and by pure physics to around 140mph.

 

I would guess that the Fusion is electronically governed, not red-line or drag limited, but I do not know what speed that is. Mine is not broken in enough to try and find out. Interesting question although I will probably never find out from personal experience.

 

And FWIW, the MIchelins on my 2010 SEL are V rated(149mph). I'm willing to bet the 2.5 4 cyl Fusion cannot go 149mph unless some modifications were done.

[03reptile]

The tire speed ratings for any vehicle should exceed the top speed that the vehicle is capable of achieving by a considerable amount for liability/safety.

My motorcycle has W-rated tires(168mph). The top speed of the bike is limited by both a rev limiter and by pure physics to around 140mph.

 

I would guess that the Fusion is electronically governed, not red-line or drag limited, but I do not know what speed that is. Mine is not broken in enough to try and find out. Interesting question although I will probably never find out from personal experience.

 

And FWIW, the MIchelins on my 2010 SEL are V rated(149mph). I'm willing to bet the 2.5 4 cyl Fusion cannot go 149mph unless some modifications were done.

 

I agree. Most manufacturers limit the cars top speed, electronically. Most German cars are limited at 155MPH. My Shelby GT500 is limited at 155MPH (good idea!). Most U.S. police vehicles have no limiters. My guess is that our I4 Fusions are limited, as well. I have not tried mine either and given that it has a standard suspension and no heavy duty equipment, I probably won't probe those depths. Lone Wolff is right. Tire ratings often exceed the car's capabilities and thats a good thing!!

[FtLewis2002]

So then how do they come up with the governed speed? A number of the HiPO GM cars are governed by the tires put on during manufacturing. For example my wife's STS didn't have the performance package so was govered at a lower top end eventhough there was no difference in equipment, only a heavier duty suppension and tires.

 

Most (the exceptions being SVT's and the Luxury cars) American vehicles are limited around 120mph. The manufacturer sets the limits on the car during the design phase. The tires are put on with consideration to the governed speed, and EXCEED the governed speed at all times, like the 1991 Escort GT. Governors are usually electronic, and on the Fusion it's in the transmission/transaxle while it's in the differential on the Mustangs. My 2009 SEL cuts out at 117mph. The Michelin HX MXM4's are "H" Rated which means 130mph...the car doesn't do that. I don't think 221hp would get that going 130 withOUT a governor either due to the 6speed.

[DaveM]

Most (the exceptions being SVT's and the Luxury cars) American vehicles are limited around 120mph. The manufacturer sets the limits on the car during the design phase. The tires are put on with consideration to the governed speed, and EXCEED the governed speed at all times, like the 1991 Escort GT. Governors are usually electronic, and on the Fusion it's in the transmission/transaxle while it's in the differential on the Mustangs. My 2009 SEL cuts out at 117mph. The Michelin HX MXM4's are "H" Rated which means 130mph...the car doesn't do that. I don't think 221hp would get that going 130 withOUT a governor either due to the 6speed.

Thanks, I'm begining to understand this better. :happy feet:

[akirby]

no no no no no...and no again. The governor setting is not based on what tires are on the car, and the tires on the car aren't based off of when the governor kicks in. The 1991 Escort GT came with "Z" rated tires, and it wasn't coming close to the need for those.

 

What I meant was that if the car has H rated tires, it will be governed below the H speed rating (if necessary). Obviously the governor could kick in before that depending on other factors.

 

In other words, the car won't ever exceed the tire's speed rating.

[FtLewis2002]

In other words, the car won't ever exceed the tire's speed rating.

 

Yep...Could you imagine the liability issues if little Johnny got in a Z06 Vette with "H" rated tires and got 4 blowouts at 180 mph? Ugly.

[grdina7]

So I've got this nifty new 2010 four-banger six speed bolt action, and I'm trying to find out what it tops out at.

I googled it, but can't find any Ford-published numbers, or even any Car and Driver numbers?

 

Does anybody have any?

 

I was surprised yesterday when I got it up to a higher-than-expected speed, and yet it was still gaining when I ran out of road and had to quit.

[grdina7]

So I've got this nifty new 2010 four-banger six speed bolt action, and I'm trying to find out what it tops out at.

I googled it, but can't find any Ford-published numbers, or even any Car and Driver numbers?

 

Does anybody have any?

 

I was surprised yesterday when I got it up to a higher-than-expected speed, and yet it was still gaining when I ran out of road and had to quit.

I have a 2006 fsion v6 that hits about 130 with no mods i think some run better than others just depends on computer i think I take out 2004 and earlier stock mustang gts with ease

[FtLewis2002]

I have a 2006 fsion v6 that hits about 130 with no mods i think some run better than others just depends on computer i think I take out 2004 and earlier stock mustang gts with ease

 

lol... I have a stock, 88 Mustang GT with a 5.0. I'll race you for titles.

[FtLewis2002]

wasted post...my bad

[grdina7]

lol... I have a stock, 88 Mustang GT with a 5.0. I'll race you for titles.

88 gt stock 220 horse about 3800 pounds old technology minus 20 percent horsepower through drive shaft so at most 180 horseys new technology on fusion 221 horse 3100 pounds with six speed little to no power loss besides stock gt them years mostly ran in the 16s i run 14.98 I would hate to take your ride

[FtLewis2002]

88 gt stock 220 horse about 3800 pounds old technology minus 20 percent horsepower through drive shaft so at most 180 horseys new technology on fusion 221 horse 3100 pounds with six speed little to no power loss besides stock gt them years mostly ran in the 16s i run 14.98 I would hate to take your ride

 

You have no idea what you're talking about. My 5.0 runs a 14.42 and it's 11 years old. Wherever you're getting the 16 second from is wrong, and so is your 14.98 in a Fusion. That 220hp in a GT has 300lb/ft of torque behind it at 3000 RPM's. That's what you need in a race. The Fusion has what, 205?

 

Torque is what gets you off the line. I would love to have a Fusion for my 16yr old, so come on out to Colorado and bring your title. Also my door sticker says 3200lbs on my Mustang while the Fusion says 3600. Not to mention the 88 Mustang GT has a top end of 140+. Let's see your fusion (or mine for that matter) get close to that.

 

Why do people confuse horsepower with torque, or horsepower with speed? I could have 100hp with 300 lb/ft of torque and eat a 500hp, 200 lb/ft all day long.

 

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/horse...rque/index.html

[Rodeo]

grdina,

 

you do realize that you're talking about racing (for pink slips no less) your stock 4-door family sedan just because you might have obnoxious racing stripes on your seats?? You've been watching too many youtube videos of youngsters beating the hell out of their fusions trying to make 0-60 and 0-100 videos or high speed gravel driving, beating the heck out of their cars (or likely their mom's cars) for what?

 

You don't buy a Ford Fusion to race anybody or anything, lest you really want to look stupid. By the way, please let me know when you are selling your car used (and where you are from) so I (and others) can avoid it like the plague. (FtLewis, that goes for you too. After his "beat" Fusion is yours I don't want to buy it from you mistakenly either.)

 

Good Racing though! (Please don't forget to "buckle up")

[FtLewis2002]

grdina,

 

you do realize that you're talking about racing (for pink slips no less) your stock 4-door family sedan just because you might have obnoxious racing stripes on your seats?? You've been watching too many youtube videos of youngsters beating the hell out of their fusions trying to make 0-60 and 0-100 videos or high speed gravel driving, beating the heck out of their cars (or likely their mom's cars) for what?

 

You don't buy a Ford Fusion to race anybody or anything, lest you really want to look stupid. By the way, please let me know when you are selling your car used (and where you are from) so I (and others) can avoid it like the plague. (FtLewis, that goes for you too. After his "beat" Fusion is yours I don't want to buy it from you mistakenly either.)

 

Good Racing though! (Please don't forget to "buckle up")

 

lol...I take care of my family sedan, and drive my Mustang like I stole it. I love my Fusion, but it's nowhere close to my tire smoking 1988 5.0 in the speed category.

 

The torque is what enables it to go 140+ considering it's not very aerodynamic. That's what bugs me about all these bolt on parts sold by different companies claiming HP gains of 35-50....who cares? If the torque gains are minuscule, you're not going to feel or see a difference. I wish I could get 300 lb/ft of torque out of my Fusion. That would be fun, even though it's a little heavier than my Mustang. His 220 hp comment made me laugh. I almost didn't mention the torque factor, but figured I'd better before he got embarrassed on the street by a lowly GT or Camaro. Hell, the 1978 Pontiac Trans-Am with the screaming chicken and the 6.6l only had 220hp, but like 400lb/ft of torque coming out of it. I guess he'd smoke one of those too. Same with the LT1 Stingray Corvettes. I never realized the Ford Fusion is a true sleeper musclecar...lol Ok, I'll stop with the sarcasm.

 

grdina, whenever you want to give me your Fusion, just let me know. :hysterical2:

[grdina7]

lol...I take care of my family sedan, and drive my Mustang like I stole it. I love my Fusion, but it's nowhere close to my tire smoking 1988 5.0 in the speed category.

 

The torque is what enables it to go 140+ considering it's not very aerodynamic. That's what bugs me about all these bolt on parts sold by different companies claiming HP gains of 35-50....who cares? If the torque gains are minuscule, you're not going to feel or see a difference. I wish I could get 300 lb/ft of torque out of my Fusion. That would be fun, even though it's a little heavier than my Mustang. His 220 hp comment made me laugh. I almost didn't mention the torque factor, but figured I'd better before he got embarrassed on the street by a lowly GT or Camaro. Hell, the 1978 Pontiac Trans-Am with the screaming chicken and the 6.6l only had 220hp, but like 400lb/ft of torque coming out of it. I guess he'd smoke one of those too. Same with the LT1 Stingray Corvettes. I never realized the Ford Fusion is a true sleeper musclecar...lol Ok, I'll stop with the sarcasm.

 

grdina, whenever you want to give me your Fusion, just let me know. :hysterical2:

actually I have a 1989 built gt by pauls high performance that now runs 11.70 and it ran 16.08 stock and I do work at ford and torque is what gets the load moving NOT 140 mph thats hp and if you want some come get some cause mines a freak for some reason I have had many race cars ut I wonder is someone tuned it before i got it ? it ran 14.98 and my tranny slips I know it runs over 130 since I was clocked next to my dads vette

[FtLewis2002]

actually I have a 1989 built gt by pauls high performance that now runs 11.70 and it ran 16.08 stock and I do work at ford and torque is what gets the load moving NOT 140 mph thats hp and if you want some come get some cause mines a freak for some reason I have had many race cars ut I wonder is someone tuned it before i got it ? it ran 14.98 and my tranny slips I know it runs over 130 since I was clocked next to my dads vette

 

lol...every post you make on this thread makes you appear a little bit dumber. did you know that? So if it's HP that gets the car up to 140, and not the torque, then why is the 88 Mustang GT with 220hp capable of 140+ (148 actually) and a 221hp Fusion with better aerodynamics, lower profile, 6sp xmsn, etc only good for around 125 with the governor off via a programmer?

 

Here's a clue: It's the TORQUE. Torque works in conjunction with the HP, but it's the torque that overcomes the adversity of hills, wind resistance, etc. Without it, you ain't goin' anywhere quickly, or against any stronger reciprocal force. What's the difference between the GT and the Fusion? hmmm...5.0l vs 3.0l And gobs of torque.

[grdina7]

lol...every post you make on this thread makes you appear a little bit dumber. did you know that? So if it's HP that gets the car up to 140, and not the torque, then why is the 88 Mustang GT with 220hp capable of 140+ (148 actually) and a 221hp Fusion with better aerodynamics, lower profile, 6sp xmsn, etc only good for around 125 with the governor off via a programmer?

 

Here's a clue: It's the TORQUE. Torque works in conjunction with the HP, but it's the torque that overcomes the adversity of hills, wind resistance, etc. Without it, you ain't goin' anywhere quickly, or against any stronger reciprocal force. What's the difference between the GT and the Fusion? hmmm...5.0l vs 3.0l And gobs of torque.

stock gt top speed 130 mph per govt, 300ftlbs not gobs 225 hp 15.6 quarter mile time bud at 3700lbs u need that to get it going for every 100lbs is one tenth of a second go to the track u are not stock running in 14s if it is a stick u better know how to take off and you better hit that borg warner third gear just right on a perfect humidity day on a 5.0 that runs like crap when it gets hot. so bring lil man,and the street is way differant than track so stay off the forums where people only tell you a lil bit

[FtLewis2002]

stock gt top speed 130 mph per govt, 300ftlbs not gobs 225 hp 15.6 quarter mile time bud at 3700lbs u need that to get it going for every 100lbs is one tenth of a second go to the track u are not stock running in 14s if it is a stick u better know how to take off and you better hit that borg warner third gear just right on a perfect humidity day on a 5.0 that runs like crap when it gets hot. so bring lil man,and the street is way differant than track so stay off the forums where people only tell you a lil bit

 

You've surpassed idiocy, and have elevated your stature to trollish. I'm done with you. Pull up to the next Mustang, Camaro, Trans-Am or Corvette and rev your little 3.0 up. IF they can hear it, I doubt they'll want to race you because everybody knows the Fusion is the king of light to light. It's not that they're laughing so hard at you that they can't see anything. :hysterical2:

[basstoy]

You've surpassed idiocy, and have elevated your stature to trollish. I'm done with you. Pull up to the next Mustang, Camaro, Trans-Am or Corvette and rev your little 3.0 up. IF they can hear it, I doubt they'll want to race you because everybody knows the Fusion is the king of light to light. It's not that they're laughing so hard at you that they can't see anything. :hysterical2:

 

BUT.. I blow away little ricers all the time.. I love it... lol

and I would try any older mustang or older fbody anytime at 80kmh on... man my car got some pickup at that speed

 

and I top out at 220 kmh, it would go faster but I guess its the governor kicking in as it seams like it is not getting enough gas..... I have a bone stock 06 SEL v6 with 97000 kms on it

[FtLewis2002]

BUT.. I blow away little ricers all the time.. I love it... lol

and I would try any older mustang or older fbody anytime at 80kmh on... man my car got some pickup at that speed

 

and I top out at 220 kmh, it would go faster but I guess its the governor kicking in as it seams like it is not getting enough gas..... I have a bone stock 06 SEL v6 with 97000 kms on it

 

Hate to break it to you, but your Fusion isn't going 136mph (220kmh) unless it's falling off of a cliff. Especially stock, and especially with 200 lb/ft of torque. BTW, the governor on the Fusion kicks in at around 115-120mph. Perhaps you and grdina7 should get a room.

 

For all other Fusion owners, please don't take it wrong. I love my Fusion. It's just not a race car, and I'm keeping this thread "real".