mysterymm Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Hello - I am looking for ideas or thoughts Someone gained access to our car while it was locked - no alarm sounded - no sign forced entry. Both sets of keys were accounted for. I have only used the keypad once to ensure I could use and no one has seen me use it. Yesterday when my husband and I were got home I listened for him to lock the vehicle and it beeped twice to signal it was armed. (the vehicle is new to us so I was listening to ensure he locked it properly). The keys were then hung up and not touched till I went to work this morning. No one else lives with us so there is no other person who would have used the keys. Both sets of keys I have are accounted for. If the alarm had beeped we would have heard it as the car is outside our bedroom window. I am baffled as to how someone gained access to our vehicle last night. There is no sign of forced entry, no broken windows, no sign they used a tool to unlock the doors as the moldings all look excellent. But someone was in the vehicle as some things were missing and every compartment was wide open and the trunk left open. We were very lucky as this person just took a few things and did no damage. Any thoughts as to what happened or how to prevent this in the future? Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbf2530 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 (edited) Hello - I am looking for ideas or thoughts Someone gained access to our car while it was locked - no alarm sounded - no sign forced entry. Both sets of keys were accounted for. I have only used the keypad once to ensure I could use and no one has seen me use it. Yesterday when my husband and I were got home I listened for him to lock the vehicle and it beeped twice to signal it was armed. (the vehicle is new to us so I was listening to ensure he locked it properly). The keys were then hung up and not touched till I went to work this morning. No one else lives with us so there is no other person who would have used the keys. Both sets of keys I have are accounted for. If the alarm had beeped we would have heard it as the car is outside our bedroom window. I am baffled as to how someone gained access to our vehicle last night. There is no sign of forced entry, no broken windows, no sign they used a tool to unlock the doors as the moldings all look excellent. But someone was in the vehicle as some things were missing and every compartment was wide open and the trunk left open. We were very lucky as this person just took a few things and did no damage. Any thoughts as to what happened or how to prevent this in the future? Thanks Hi mysterymm. Sorry to hear about your misfortune. However, if the information you provided in your post is correct, it seems your vehicle was not locked. Here is why: You stated that the car "beeped twice to signal that it was armed". Unfortunately, two beeps signal that something (a door, the trunk or hood) was not closed properly and the system did not arm. In other words, two beeps is the "something is wrong" warning, not the "all locked" signal If you check your Owners Manual, you will see that the horn will beep once when all doors, the trunk and hood are closed properly and the IKT remote lock button is pressed twice. Here is a copy and paste of that section from the 2010 Fusion Owners Manual: "Note: If any door or the trunk is not closed, or if the hood is not closed in vehicles equipped with the perimeter alarm feature, the horn will chirp twice and the lamps will not illuminate." While you do not mention what year your vehicle is, this is also the way my 2007 Lincoln MKZ Perimeter Alarm System operates and the way all Fusions/Milans/MKZ operate to this point in time. So unfortunately, it seems the car was accidentally left unlocked. Good luck. :beerchug: Edited February 22, 2010 by bbf2530 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJE Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 bbf is correct about the beeps. Sorry about your loss. I am very glad no damage was done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmech2k Posted February 23, 2010 Share Posted February 23, 2010 RTFI.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterymm Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 Hello I appreciate the responses and you are right if it had beeped twice the car would have not locked. But I posted the problem wrong - In my quick typing to upload this post as I posted it wrong (I should have first read it out loud)..... we pressed the remote button twice to lock the car and it beeped once. Thanks MM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Hello I appreciate the responses and you are right if it had beeped twice the car would have not locked. But I posted the problem wrong - In my quick typing to upload this post as I posted it wrong (I should have first read it out loud)..... we pressed the remote button twice to lock the car and it beeped once. Thanks MM I don't see how you could have been confused about that - you clearly said you were listening and heard 2 beeps. But it's obvious you either never locked it or you unlocked it by accidentally hitting the unlock button on one of the remotes. It happens a lot - usually with the Panic button. If it was locked then the alarm would have sounded if any doors or the trunk were opened. The only other explanation is that the alarm system is defective which I've never heard of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterymm Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 I don't see how you could have been confused about that - you clearly said you were listening and heard 2 beeps. But it's obvious you either never locked it or you unlocked it by accidentally hitting the unlock button on one of the remotes. It happens a lot - usually with the Panic button. If it was locked then the alarm would have sounded if any doors or the trunk were opened. The only other explanation is that the alarm system is defective which I've never heard of. Hi - I was stressed when I wrote .......but anyway according to everyone I talk to about this it does appear that somehow it must not have locked as there just does not seem to be any other explanation. Thank you all for your help - I have become very attentive to making sure I lock the vehicle ...and all in all I was very very lucky that no damage was done. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJE Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Now that you are hear, don't be a stranger! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Now that you are hear, don't be a stranger! I hope that was a pun.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 That's neither hear nor their, but perhaps I'm just disorientated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJE Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 HERE! I guess I made another mistake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTamney Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 A little bit of help. This is driving me nuts. Last night I packed my car to head out of town. I hit button on remote and it locked my 2010 Fusion. This morning about to leave I see my pass rear door open. The driver door in the middle of the window on the outside has torn moulding. My stuff gone! What happen to the alarm? Any suggestions? Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdii Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 They used the manual unlock method which will disable the alarm. It takes skill to unlock these with a slim jim, but it happens. The alarm is only good if they break a window and pull the door handle from the inside. Three things disarm it, the key in the door(or slimjim the lock actuator), pressing the door unlock button inside, or using the fob. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I always push the lock button twice to it beeps twice. Just my own personal verification that its locked..lol. I also watch to make sure it lights up when I lock it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTamney Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I to hit the button twice to here it beep twice. Thank you so much for this information acdii this makes me feel a lot better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTamney Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 They used the manual unlock method which will disable the alarm. It takes skill to unlock these with a slim jim, but it happens. The alarm is only good if they break a window and pull the door handle from the inside. Three things disarm it, the key in the door(or slimjim the lock actuator), pressing the door unlock button inside, or using the fob. Thank you a ton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTLFusion2010 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 .... Three things disarm it, the key in the door(or slimjim the lock actuator), pressing the door unlock button inside, or using the fob. Since the key has a transponder, the car's systems should have been programmed to check for its presence when the 'lock actuator' is moved (to distinguish between key in the door vs. a slimjim). I think this is an obvious oversight by the designers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTamney Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Since the key has a transponder, the car's systems should have been programmed to check for its presence when the 'lock actuator' is moved (to distinguish between key in the door vs. a slimjim). I think this is an obvious oversight by the designers. This is good info. The person who broke into my car knew exactly where it insert slimjim. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionDiffusion Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Since the key has a transponder, the car's systems should have been programmed to check for its presence when the 'lock actuator' is moved (to distinguish between key in the door vs. a slimjim). I think this is an obvious oversight by the designers. It's just a simple electrical connection (no key verification), so once they short it the alarm is disarmed. Yes, the thief must have been a pro. If I may ask, what sort of item(s) were stolen? Just for clarification, two quick horn beeps means something is open. You want to hear only one beep after pressing the button twice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think he meant that he hit the lock button and heard it beep once to confirm it was locked then did it again, not 2 beeps in a row. If it was left unlocked they wouldn't have had to jimmy it. As for detecting the key in the cylinder - sure that could be done but at a cost for something that would only come into play with a pro and if that didn't work, they'd just break the window so what's the point? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdii Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Also if you have an emergency key in your wallet because you locked the keys inside and dont remember the code, those are usually plastic and dont have a transponder. On the 13 they hid the key hole, you need the key on the key fob to removed the cover so you can use the key to unlock it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionDiffusion Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I just tried unlocking my car with the key, and here's what happened: I opened the driver's door and the alarm didn't go off, but the cluster started beeping and displayed a message that said: "TO STOP ALARM START CAR". The beeping reminded me of a ticking time-bomb in a movie, so I'm guessing you have a short period (perhaps 30 seconds) to start the car or else the perimeter alarm will go off. So granted a thief that opened the door would have time to grab something and flee the scene, but without a key the alarm would eventually go off unless the thief was skilled enough to cut power to the SJB before the alarm could sound. McTamney, I suggest you try what I did to see what happens. Perhaps your car doesn't have a perimeter alarm if it's a lower trim? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetty Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Strong username to post.. Sorry to hear but like the others said it seems like the car was unlocked. Did you leave anything out in the open that someone could easily grab? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilla121 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 hitting lock button twice and two beeps means somethings open 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awdpath Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 ... Yesterday when my husband and I were got home I listened for him to lock the vehicle and it beeped twice to signal it was armed. (the vehicle is new to us so I was listening to ensure he locked it properly). The keys were then hung up and not touched till I went to work this morning. No one else lives with us so there is no other person who would have used the keys. Both sets of keys I have are accounted for. If the alarm had beeped we would have heard it as the car is outside our bedroom window. I am baffled as to how someone gained access to our vehicle last night. There is no sign of forced entry, no broken windows, no sign they used a tool to unlock the doors as the moldings all look excellent. But someone was in the vehicle as some things were missing and every compartment was wide open and the trunk left open. We were very lucky as this person just took a few things and did no damage. Any thoughts as to what happened or how to prevent this in the future? Thanks A 2013 model? Make sure the trunk is closed/locked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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