external temperature reading

[maverick]

Hello, newbie here, new sport with moon and tune. I have compass showing on radio, however I don't have external temperature showing on screen. According to standard feature list on sport models I am to have that feature and I don't. Anyone else with same issue and got fixed?

[blumagic]

Hello, newbie here, new sport with moon and tune. I have compass showing on radio, however I don't have external temperature showing on screen. According to standard feature list on sport models I am to have that feature and I don't. Anyone else with same issue and got fixed?

 

 

I have that same issue, i went to the dealer and I was told that it depends on the time frame the car was built, which i don't agree with since that is suppose to included.

[maverick]

I have that same issue, i went to the dealer and I was told that it depends on the time frame the car was built, which i don't agree with since that is suppose to included.

[maverick]

Hello blumagic, my build date was 06/10, so the dealer comment sounds like a bunch of bull. I have downloaded and printed off four standard item spec sheets from motortrend, automobile and jd powers along with ford's standard spec sheet which is not as detailed, indicating the external temperature is standard on 2010 FF sport models. I am going to the dealer on Monday to have my tint installed and I will be bringing this issue up to them and await their response. We are not alone with this issue, however, I purchased my car and the options I wanted based on this info, and Ford needs to make right, as my wife wants her temp reading and if you look with a flashlight you will see the housing on the display screen for external temperature.

[pkvir]

Hello blumagic, my build date was 06/10, so the dealer comment sounds like a bunch of bull. I have downloaded and printed off four standard item spec sheets from motortrend, automobile and jd powers along with ford's standard spec sheet which is not as detailed, indicating the external temperature is standard on 2010 FF sport models. I am going to the dealer on Monday to have my tint installed and I will be bringing this issue up to them and await their response. We are not alone with this issue, however, I purchased my car and the options I wanted based on this info, and Ford needs to make right, as my wife wants her temp reading and if you look with a flashlight you will see the housing on the display screen for external temperature.

 

Add me to the list of " I want a Temp Reading", but I was not aware that it listed as standard on any spec sheets. Please keep us updated.

 

Auto headlights was listed as standard on any spec sheets, was it? j/k

[autoxr1]

This one has been discussed at length on the other Fusion Forum: Activate Outside Temp Display?

 

The bottom line is that you only get the outside temp display with the Electronic Climate Control (EATC). This is standard on the 2010 SEL, but not on the Sport. You need to order the "Electronics Package" on the Sport to get the EATC with the outside temp display (unfortunately).

[maverick]

Add me to the list of " I want a Temp Reading", but I was not aware that it listed as standard on any spec sheets. Please keep us updated.

 

Auto headlights was listed as standard on any spec sheets, was it? j/k

[maverick]

pkvir, auto headlights is listed as available, non standard, another one of the option packages. I know everyone has said that external temperature is only available on the auto climate control pkg and with out that feature we don't get external temp, however, Ford should not list it as a standard item and have it on the display screen. Ford should make this a goodwill recall and fix this issue, as many are upset they don't have this simple feature when they should, blantant misrepresentation of product offerings as standard. I know this issue might sound trivial, but I paid for something I was supposed to have and I did not get it. Ford just needs to do the right thing and remember happy customers keep them in business, not the government.

[autoxr1]

pkvir, auto headlights is listed as available, non standard, another one of the option packages. I know everyone has said that external temperature is only available on the auto climate control pkg and with out that feature we don't get external temp, however, Ford should not list it as a standard item and have it on the display screen. Ford should make this a goodwill recall and fix this issue, as many are upset they don't have this simple feature when they should, blantant misrepresentation of product offerings as standard. I know this issue might sound trivial, but I paid for something I was supposed to have and I did not get it. Ford just needs to do the right thing and remember happy customers keep them in business, not the government.

 

Wow! That's quite a rant against Ford!

 

Your comments prompted me to dig out the 2010 Fusion brochure, as well as the 2010 Factory Order Guide and even my 2010 Sport window sticker. I find no mention of an external temp display in any of them, either as standard or optional. In fact, even the description for the SEL which has EATC standard does not mention the outside temp display feature that is therefore included.

 

Where is your documentation that Ford made a "blatant misrepresentation of product offerings as standard" and that you didn't get something you paid for? I sure don't see it in any printed material on the Fusion.

 

Here's the official Order Guide that shows the standard and optional content for each model: 2010 Fusion Order Guide

Edited July 25, 2010 by autoxr1

[blumagic]

Here we go, just an update on what I found out from Ford, I went to the dealership with the paperwork stating that the Ext Temp is suppose to be standard, and they agreed with me due to what the paper work said but how ever it all depends on when your 2010 Sport was built, some Sports have it and some don't, now ain't that a blimp, I think they should be all the same across the board, so I'm just stuck without it...

[autoxr1]

Here we go, just an update on what I found out from Ford, I went to the dealership with the paperwork stating that the Ext Temp is suppose to be standard, and they agreed with me due to what the paper work said but how ever it all depends on when your 2010 Sport was built, some Sports have it and some don't, now ain't that a blimp, I think they should be all the same across the board, so I'm just stuck without it...

 

What "paper work" are you referring to? As I noted above, External Temp Display it is not listed in any of the Fusion printed materials, including the dealer order guide and the factory brochure. Please post a pic.

[blumagic]

What "paper work" are you referring to? As I noted above, External Temp Display it is not listed in any of the Fusion printed materials, including the dealer order guide and the factory brochure. Please post a pic.

 

 

 

I was able to download the equipment standard list/ options list from Motor Trend...Plus when I took it to the dealership they looked underneath the front end of the car and told me that it wasn't hooked up, and in order to hook it up they would have to order a part that has to be plugged up and they would have to order the switch, the car equipped but it is not hooked up...

 

 

DriveTrain

6-speed manual transmission front wheel drive

Suspension

four-wheel independent suspension front and rear stabilizer bar

double wishbone front suspension multi-link rear suspension

 

Instrumentation

tachometer trip computer

clock external temperature display

low fuel level warning

 

* Exterior Features

Tires and Wheels

painted alloy wheels 16 x 6.5 in. wheels

P205/60R16 V tires all season tires

temporary spare tire steel spare wheel

inside mounted spare tire

Roof and Glass

intermittent wipers rear defogger

Edited August 2, 2010 by blumagic

[akirby]

I was able to download the equipment standard list/ options list from Motor Trend...Plus when I took it to the dealership they looked underneath the front end of the car and told me that it wasn't hooked up, and in order to hook it up they would have to order a part that has to be plugged up and they would have to order the switch, the car equipped but it is not hooked up...

 

 

DriveTrain

6-speed manual transmission front wheel drive

Suspension

four-wheel independent suspension front and rear stabilizer bar

double wishbone front suspension multi-link rear suspension

 

Instrumentation

tachometer trip computer

clock external temperature display

low fuel level warning

 

* Exterior Features

Tires and Wheels

painted alloy wheels 16 x 6.5 in. wheels

P205/60R16 V tires all season tires

temporary spare tire steel spare wheel

inside mounted spare tire

Roof and Glass

intermittent wipers rear defogger

 

Is Motor Trend the only source or did you also see it listed as standard in a Ford document?

[blumagic]

Is Motor Trend the only source or did you also see it listed as standard in a Ford document?

 

 

sorry I posted the wrong spec, here is the correct one, i got this off of Edmonds

 

Engine

3.5L displacement double overhead cam (DOHC)

V6 cylinder configuration gas engine

24 valves variable valve timing

263 hp @ 6250 rpm 249 ft-lbs. @ 4500 rpm

regular unleaded

 

DriveTrain

6-speed shiftable automatic transmission all wheel drive

mechanical center differential center limited slip differential

 

Suspension

four-wheel independent suspension front and rear stabilizer bar

double wishbone front suspension multi-link rear suspension

 

Instrumentation

tachometer trip computer

clock external temperature display

low fuel level warning compass

 

* Exterior Features

Tires and Wheels

painted alloy wheels 18 x 7.5 in. wheels

P225/45R18 V tires all season tires

temporary spare tire steel spare wheel

inside mounted spare tire

 

Roof and Glass

intermittent wipers rear defogger

Exterior Features

chrome grille rear spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

www.edmunds.com/new/2010/ford/fusion/101138107/standard.html

[akirby]

Then I think you need to go get Edmunds to pay for it, not Ford. Ford isn't responsible for what Edmunds or KBB or cars.com or anyone else publishes.

 

If you have it on the window sticker or some order guide from FORD then you have a point.

[xmech2k]

This is starting to remind me of the Snickers commercials, where they're playing football with Betty white, or they have Aretha Franklin in the back of the car, complaining about the humidity or something.

 

Dude, time to have a Snickers!

 

Or, not as great as built-in, but if you need one so bad - Digital Auto Gauges - or even - JC Whitney

[drolds1]

The fact that they list the Fusion AWD system as having a mechanical locking center limited slip differential tells you all you need to know about Edmunds's accuracy/credibility. There is no center differential in the Fusion/Milan/MKZ AWD system, locking or otherwise.

 

Frankly, based on my experience with Edmunds, I'm not at all surprised.

 

 

Besides, as akirby stated, Ford is not responsible for what any non-Ford website publishes.

[Jshell757]

From what I can tell, you need to have an SEL, or a Sport with the Electronics Package to get the outside temp display.

 

I think the Vehicle must be equipped with EATC to get it .

 

Here is that package I believe it is also called 402A

 

Electronics Package

1st Row Driver & Passenger Heated Seats

1st Row – 6-way Power Passenger Seat

Ambient Lighting

Auto Headlamps

BLIS™ (Blind Spot Information System) with Cross Traffic Alert

Dual Zone Automatic Temperature Control (DEATC)

Heated Mirrors with Puddle Lamps

Rear Camera (display in Rearview Mirror unless Navigation is ordered-on

screen)

SecuriCode™ Keyless Entry Pad

Edited August 4, 2010 by Jshell757

[maverick]

My rant was warranted. Went to dealer with all my info and we pulled out Ford dealer books and external temperature is indicated as feature, no mention you have to have auto climate control. I spent 3 hrs with dealer and they agreed (finally,) there is no mention you have to have auto climate control. My great dealer had their lead tech attempt to put in a temp sensor, which is behind bumper on passenger side, and activate it via computer, no luck. The tech and myself looked at the wiring diagram and while the components are there, the computer boards are different for manual and auto and for that reason we cannot have external temp reading. The tech agreed this is a Ford enginering mistake for such a simple issue, however, he had no answer at this time to fix our issue as Ford did not make a fix without all new climate control boards. I would like to see Ford address this issue and come up with a solution, I won't hold my breath. So, for all the build date bs and exuses, along with very unsupportive forum member comments,(employed by Ford??) being thrown at proud Sport owners, you have a legitimate claim to have all the standard features you should have and Ford needs to address and fix. I want to be Blue Oval proud and with others with this issue, if we work together, maybe, Ford will come up with a no cost fix.

[akirby]

My rant was warranted. Went to dealer with all my info and we pulled out Ford dealer books and external temperature is indicated as feature, no mention you have to have auto climate control. I spent 3 hrs with dealer and they agreed (finally,) there is no mention you have to have auto climate control. My great dealer had their lead tech attempt to put in a temp sensor, which is behind bumper on passenger side, and activate it via computer, no luck. The tech and myself looked at the wiring diagram and while the components are there, the computer boards are different for manual and auto and for that reason we cannot have external temp reading. The tech agreed this is a Ford enginering mistake for such a simple issue, however, he had no answer at this time to fix our issue as Ford did not make a fix without all new climate control boards. I would like to see Ford address this issue and come up with a solution, I won't hold my breath. So, for all the build date bs and exuses, along with very unsupportive forum member comments,(employed by Ford??) being thrown at proud Sport owners, you have a legitimate claim to have all the standard features you should have and Ford needs to address and fix. I want to be Blue Oval proud and with others with this issue, if we work together, maybe, Ford will come up with a no cost fix.

 

Your rant was not warranted at all, especially since you only said you saw the info on Edmunds and never made any reference to Ford materials. In the end, it's a very minor feature either way.

 

Ford either changed a part or they made a typo in the documentation. It happens. Get over it. It's not the end of the world. If it had not been listed you would have purchased the vehicle without it anyway.

 

I'm sure if you point this out NICELY to Ford you'll get something out of it - future discount or a free accessory of some kind. It's not worth anything else. It's not like they deliberately did a bait and switch on you.

 

We don't work for Ford - we just like to use a little common sense.

[autoxr1]

I cannot believe you got a dealer to spend hours of their time and their lead service technician's time (@$70 - 90/hr) trying to install something into your car that is NOT supposed to be there! That dealer is going WAY above and beyond to satisfy their customers. I hope you reward them with your new car business for decades to come.

 

As akirby has noted, you cannot rely on a third party website like Edmunds to publish correct information on equipment and specifications. And the thought of using that unreliable info to try to accuse Ford of misbuilding your car is LUDICROUS!

 

The only official document that counts is the 2010 Fusion Dealer Order Guide, which I have linked above, and it makes NO mention of an external temperature display in the standard content lists. Neither does the 2010 Fusion brochure published by Ford. And even if a mistake HAD gotten into one of these documents, note Ford's disclaimer at the bottom of each page: "Ford reserves the right to change product specifications at any time without incurring obligations."

 

I think you need to let this one go, and quit accusing Ford of something they are clearly NOT at fault on.

[drolds1]

Do you seriously believe that everyone here whom you call "unsupportive" works for Ford?

[akirby]

Do you seriously believe that everyone here whom you call "unsupportive" works for Ford?

 

Don't you know that anyone who disagrees with someone who is being critical of Ford is either an employee or a fanboi?

[Grey]

Nobody that works for Ford would be permitted to post on a forum. All communication with the public has to have legal review (except execs.) akirby is correct (on many fronts.)

[Jshell757]

Wow, that is a lot of research, and a great dealer. A nice letter to ford for a coupon or free services.

 

But in a sense, that statemment was correct, I checked Alldata Pro, Mitchell on Demand 5, and Fords own 2010 service manual, and yea, the logic control for the sensor is controled by the EATC module, so in a sense, you need the EATC to get the external temp reading.

 

So EATC and the Ext Temp do go hand in hand.