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AWD with a manual transmission


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I can't seem to find any Ford (or GM for Chrysler for that matter) cars with AWD AND a manual transmission. I want a sporty car, with a great engine, AWD to give it neutral handling and to be able to put that power down no matter what the road surface is like -and a STICK! I enjoy driving and, no matter how efficient many of the new automatics/manumatics are, they still isolate me from the driving experience. I am a good driver, know how to drive a stick right, and want that as part of my driving experience. Do I have to continue buying Audis (or Subaru, BMW or Mitsubishi) in order to get what I want?

 

Look at the Cadillac CTS. I can get a GREAT car (world class!) in the CTS-V with a great engine (556 hp!) AND a stick! The other option is the CTS-4 with AWD, and an anemic V-6. However, I CANNOT get the great engine, a stick, AND AWD. Chrysler is the same story in their Chysler 300. The new Buick Regal GS was supposed to be available with a decent engine, stick and AWD (like the European vehicle it is based on), but the bean-counters cut the AWD, citing cost and weight savings. Arrrggghh!

 

Don't the U.S manufacturers get it, or are their website and dealers misinformed and this combination IS available?

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Subaru is about it for the U.S. market for AWD and a stick. And you'll only see that option on a bare bones 4-cylinder car too. The car manufactures say that standard transmission cars are nearly impossible to sell. Not many AWD cars are sold either. So put the two together, you get just about nothing. It costs millions to develop, test, and market a unique vehicle. The manufacturers just can't justify making something like that, if not enough will be sold.

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Don't the U.S manufacturers get it, or are their website and dealers misinformed and this combination IS available?

 

Don't auto enthusiasts get it, there just aren't enough of us out there to justify the millions required to develop what we want.

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Subaru is an option, but if you have the money I would go with an Audi.

 

http://models.audiusa.com/a3

 

Though many people are turned off by wagons, the A3 is a mean car, AWD, and available with a 6 speed transmission.

I wish US auto makers would make more manual transmission equipped cars.

Its an art to shift properly and its disappearing quickly, like home cooking and decent TV shows LOL.

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I wish US auto makers would make more manual transmission equipped cars.

 

All you have to do is convince other buyers to actually buy them and the US auto makers will start making them left and right. They used to be cheaper and more fuel efficient but with modern 6 speed autos that's no longer the case so it really just comes down to personal preference now and there just isn't enough preference to justify the cost.

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The key to my post was American cars. Not a foreign car manufactured in the U.S. or other variations on a theme. Though I have owned mostly foreign cars since I began driving (my first car was a Triumph TR250/TR5), I am trying to buy American due to potential effect on the economy, as has been showcased on ABC News. I realize that I could buy Audi (we have owned 4 of them), BMW, Mitsubishi, Porsche, Subaru (I've owned 2 of the them), but I'm trying to buy American. Due to needing a car NOW, I sold my Audi A4 quattro (with 188,000 miles on it) and bought a Chrysler 300C AWD. It is big, comfortable, powerful, stylish and has a lot of nice features -but is still lacking. Whether I went with the V-6 or the V-8, it's a big heavy car with the same mileage rating for both, and they both suck (though they DO burn mid-grade instead of premium fuel). It doesn't handle the snow as well as my Audis. The rear seats don't have seat heaters. The rear window defroster doesn't work very well. The front seat heaters work like the rear window defrost: you punch a button and they come on for a limited time and then go off -and there are only two settings, and you have to punch the on button each time to turn them on -you can't pre-set them. The handling is more American (read: soft) and not as tight and precise as my Audis, or even the Subarus. The leather seats? Well, it is "leather seating surfaces" -and the rest is matchng vinyl -which was coming apart on the outside bottom seat bolster of the driver's seat and had to be replaced.

 

Yes, it's not an Audi -and I still can't find an American car with AWD and a stick. Living in Michigan, I want performance that I can enjoy in every season. I don't want a CTS-V that I have to park for at least 4 months out of the year due to the weather.

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mnutt, you must realize you're in a severe minority. Yes, there are still some of us out there that prefer to drive a stick and have AWD, but most buyers don't care. Most people can't drive stick anymore and they're not going to want to pay for AWD given the choice between that and more "fancy features" like SYNC or parking sensors.

 

Most people drive stick in Europe, so European manufacturers still have financial motivation to engineer everything with a stick version. This is lacking with American manufacturers. Ford doesn't even have a manual transmission that is capable of AWD I believe. They haven't produced a new manual transmission of their own design in years.

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