Are the V6 engines a Japanese design?

[rayban]

I saw in an article that the I4 engines are from Mazda. Does anyone know if that's the same case with the V6 ones? Thanks in advance.

[mtl1977]

I believe they are a Ford design, built in Cleveland.

 

The I-4 was designed by Mazda but it is built in Chihuahua, Mexico at a Ford plant.

 

 

Variants of the V-6 have been in a lot of cars, starting in the US in 1995 with the Contour/Mystique as a 2.5L. The 3.0L came out in the 1996 Taurus/Sable

[CT EMT]

According to some documentation i found on my 06 SE V6 it states it was made in Mexico.

[robertlane]

According to some documentation i found on my 06 SE V6 it states it was made in Mexico.

Hmmm. I thought all 3.0's were made in the U.S.?

[MTU 5.0]

According to some documentation i found on my 06 SE V6 it states it was made in Mexico.

 

No, the 3.0L 24V Duratec V-6 is made at Cleveland 2 engine plant, not Mexico. As stated, the I4 is made south of the border.

[svtenthusiast]

Hmmm. I thought all 3.0's were made in the U.S.?

 

Yes, the engines are made in Cleveland, the car is assembled in Mexico.

[robertlane]

OK - that's what I thought. Thanks for the clarification.

[CT EMT]

my mistake! I double checked and realized the CAR was made in Mexico, not the engine! sorry

[robertlane]

my mistake! I double checked and realized the CAR was made in Mexico, not the engine! sorry

You see the trouble that you caused :lol2:

[Evolutionx]

The engine is the same 24V DOHC they have been using in the Taurus/Sable for years.

[ctrcbob]

The thread asked Japanese DESIGN, not where made.

 

The European and Japanese were mass producing DOHC 4Valve Engines long before we were. American thinking at the time was if you needed more power, just add cubic inches, but the Europeans and Japanese had to pay much higher taxes on their cars with larger engines, so they just made smaller engines produce more power with DOHC designs. We in this country finally saw the light and started to design smaller DOHC engines with more power, that also got better gas milage. The V6 is a Ford Design, however you have to remember that Ford is worldwide, so it could have been designed in the US/Canada or in the UK or in Germany. (Who knows??)

 

BTW, in the European Union, they no longer have to pay higher taxes each year for having a larger engine. The days of the 500cc or 800cc car engines are long gone. Now it is like it is here. A V6 (or V8) will cost more than an I4, but only when you buy the car, (like here) but not taxed every year. The Renault Lagunas that I have leased on my last three trips to Europe have all had an I4 DOHC 16V Engine, although I've had them in 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 liters. (My favorate was the 1.8). Always lease the manual transmission and on the Laguna, it is the best manual I've ever had, always like shifting through butter. Have never had so much as an iota of problems with the Laguna (or even the 21's that I leased before that). Lastly, European drivers are much better than American/Canadian drivers. Yes, they drive fast, but they know their cars and they just plain drive better. (see below). Lastly, they do not try to save gas in Europe. They drive their cars HARD (like they stole it <grin>). My last trip there last May, to France, I paid a high of $7.75 a gallon (in Paris) and a low of $6.80 at a discount station in Dijon, with an average of $7.30 a gallon.

 

Speaking of better drivers, when was the last time you saw a "traffic circle" in this country. (few and far between). We removed traffic circles because American (can't speak for Canadian) drivers can't drive through a traffic circle. They are all over Europe and they are great. No need for a traffic light where you sit and wait. The rule is the car already in the circle has the right of way. No traffic jams, No problems, and I've been in them all over Europe. The last traffic circle I remember seeing in the US was in my hometown, about 50 years ago. (We Americans, as a people, can't drive <grin>).

[urnews]

(We Americans, as a people, can't drive <grin>).

Bob, you are speaking of yourself, right? :happy feet:

[rwortman]

I have read the following in several places on the net. I can't vouch for its voracity but it sounds plausible to me.

 

"The 2.5 L and 3.0 L V6 Duratecs are evolutions of the same design, first used in the 1994 Ford Mondeo. It is a modern aluminum DOHC V6 with a 60° bank angle. The primary engineering input came from Porsche, who were developing a similar V6 before selling the engineering to Ford, and Cosworth, who helped with cylinder head manufacturing.

 

The Jaguar AJ-V6 engine is similar but adds variable valve timing. Mazda's AJ version also has this feature.

[urnews]

Interesting tidbit. Doesn't the 3.0-liter V6 now in the Fusions and Milans also feature variable valve timing?

[akirby]

Interesting tidbit. Doesn't the 3.0-liter V6 now in the Fusions and Milans also feature variable valve timing?

 

yes

[mtl1977]

I heard they wanted to use the 3.0L engine on the SVT Contour, but there were some packaging issues in the Mondeo engine bay, like the placement of the water pump that is cam driven off the back of one cyinder head.

 

I also heard that the 2.5 liter was slightly over 2500ccs, so it was in a higher class in Europe and/or Japan - so Ford had to spend a crapload of $$ to get the displacement under 2500.

[DCC]

Severl years ago I attended a Ford product launch where they had several enginers on hand to explain the products and features. One of the said that the 24V 3.0L was a Porsche design that Ford bought the rights to.