ccd228 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) I've got a 2012 Fusion with 1600 miles. I drove about 20 miles down highway and got to some backroads heading home. I stopped at a stop sign when to pull out and it stalled. I gave it more gas and it stalled again then took off. I went by a store and cut off car and didn't restart it for mabey 10 minutes and it did same thing when I pulled out. I about got hit. The next day I while I was out it did not do it but the check engine light came on. I took to dealer they and it came up code P2196 and P2198. They said they reset those ... what-ever that might be and drove it and could not replicate what happened to me. They said they called Ford and was told to give back to customer and basically wait to see if it happens again. So I get car back and sure enough after it's been driven a little while it does it again. So now from the dealer having car for 2 days since they were backed up ... I'm going to have to take it back soon enough. Anyway have this ? I'm going to get hit if this happens at the wrong time either by being hit in the rear on in the side when it dies while pulling out. Over the weekend it has graduated to jerking badly. It does this at 30,40,50 and 60mph. It is unsafe to be going down highway and that happens.Car slows down while this is happening. We took to back to dealer this morning.Of course more problems the jerking continues all the way up highway and it was so bad you couldn't go past 40 mph. The Engine light came back on. We left it running and complained on giving me a car back not fixed. I really could have had a bad accident. I made them give me a rental. They had my car 2 1/2 days last week I can't do that again.So no call back for follow-up from dealer on what they found or what they've done today. I thought I'd get atleast a touch base call. The P2196 is something about gas being too rich or something. I haven't filled up so it was not overfilled that was asked to me.I also have gotten gas a diff gas stations so I would hope not all 3 have bad gas. Edited July 10, 2012 by ccd228 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 point 5 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) Doesnt sound right for shure. With such a new car it could be so many different things. Next time have them give you in writing what the codes were. Good luck and I hope they find out what it is. Edited July 8, 2012 by 3 point 5 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionDiffusion Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 P2196 - O2 Sensor Signal Biased/Stuck Rich - Bank 1, Sensor 1 P2198 - O2 Sensor Signal Biased/Stuck Rich - Bank 2, Sensor 1 I believe there was a TSB out for a stuck purge valve. This would cause the car to suck gas fumes from the tank and run rich, hence your codes. So I guess I would ask them to replace the purge valve. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccd228 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 I took car back to shop. It wouldn't go faster than 40 without jerking like crazy.Check engine light was on once again. 3 days later I got car back and they said it was a faulty #3 spark plug. Whole process check was performed injector flow test.Passed. Checked mode 6 data and found cylinder #3 had 21 misfires.Test drove and IDS power blance and verified under loads veh would skip on cylinder 3.Removed upper intake and swaped coils between #2 and #3.Skip did not change.Swaped spark plugs and skip changed. Replaced faulty spark plug #3 cleared code and road tested to verify. Day of getting it back I go to put gas in it and it wouldn't start again.Tried a few times and when it did it would barely go when gas pushed. After a few minutes it's fine just the initial start up. 2 days later it starts idling bad and I notice the rpm's are going crazy. It starts shifting bad no jerks like before then again Check Engine light on. So Car is back in shop now. So from 1600 miles car has stayed in shop now off/on 2 weeks+ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
con_fusion Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I think someone else mentioned that it could be a throttle body problem. The tb seems to be a problem area for many people with 2010-2012 models. If they don't get it right this time you might want to try a different dealer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccd228 Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 Resolution was the vapor management valve was staying open all the time.The part was like $40 or so. But car in shop over 2 weeks till this was determined. I've had car back a few days. Last time I got gas it wouldn't start and got worse. So tomorrow I get gas and hope no issues and that my car is fixed. I love my car and ready to crank up the stereo instead of listening to all my engine/shifting noises for problems or delays. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
con_fusion Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Resolution was the vapor management valve was staying open all the time.The part was like $40 or so. But car in shop over 2 weeks till this was determined. I've had car back a few days. Last time I got gas it wouldn't start and got worse. So tomorrow I get gas and hope no issues and that my car is fixed. I love my car and ready to crank up the stereo instead of listening to all my engine/shifting noises for problems or delays. Hmmm...wonder if that was the canister purge valve under the hood? If you get a chance and don't mind checking your paperwork to see what the part # was they replaced. Just curious. There was a TSB regarding the canister purge valve but the 3.5 engine wasn't listed on it. Hopefully it's fixed now Edited July 25, 2012 by con_fusion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKZOWN Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Resolution was the vapor management valve was staying open all the time.The part was like $40 or so. But car in shop over 2 weeks till this was determined. I've had car back a few days. Last time I got gas it wouldn't start and got worse. So tomorrow I get gas and hope no issues and that my car is fixed. I love my car and ready to crank up the stereo instead of listening to all my engine/shifting noises for problems or delays. good luck i hope they fixed it. its a beautiful car and i hope you can enjoy your music lol the sport has a great stereo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy2012 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 My 2012 fusion SE continues to stall out at stop signs and sometimes jerk really hard when accelerating. I have just replace the throttle body and sensor along with new air filter. What could be the problem? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 An Internet diagnosis is very difficult at best. There could be various causes for this; a misfire, a fuel delivery problem, lockup torque converter malfunction, etc. Were there any alerts, such as CEL or yellow wrench light? Before throwing any more parts at it, I'd suggest you get a professional diagnosis. At the very least, get it scanned for any codes at a Ford dealer or a shop you trust that has modern diagnostic equipment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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