durasel Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I have 2- 2010 Fusion Sports and was trying to look up the 3.5 coolant change and transmission fluid change intervals without much luck. What would be a normal amount of time/milage to change these fluids? They are both lower milage cars (23K and 25K) but are going on 3 years old. Both fluids have not been changed yet. I would say they get medium use. Would appreciate some input from our members. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionDiffusion Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Coolant is 6 years or 105,000 miles. Transmission fluid is every 150,000 miles. Both are in the scheduled maintenance guide. So nothing required yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durasel Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) Ha, guess I didn't go far enough in the scheduled maintainance guide!! Still stuck with the gen 4 Taurus/Sable times!!! Thank you! Tried sending you a PM, but it wouldn't go through!! Edited April 2, 2013 by durasel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionDiffusion Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 (edited) Ha, yeah the intervals on the new cars are a lot better for everything. I would leave the coolant alone until the 5 year point, but I would do a trans pan drain and refill every 50K (it has a drain plug!). Draining the pan is about 1/3 of the fluid capacity, so doing it that way ensures you get most of the original fluid replaced by 150k. You'll have to buy a stupid dipstick for it though since they got rid of them! Edited April 2, 2013 by FusionDiffusion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobraman302 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Ha, yeah the intervals on the new cars are a lot better for everything. I would leave the coolant alone until the 5 year point, but I would do a trans pan drain and refill every 50K (it has a drain plug!). Draining the pan is about 1/3 of the fluid capacity, so doing it that way ensures you get most of the original fluid replaced by 150k. You'll have to buy a stupid dipstick for it though since they got rid of them! Why do you recommend this? I have a 2010 Fusion Sport and I am at 60k miles currently. I was going to do a transmission fluid change at this point. I started searching around and found a few sources stating that this particular trans fluid is service free? So I am leaning towards it being useless to change the fluid before the 150k mile interval. Interesting enough, I plan on keeping the car until it reaches 150k miles... But there seems to be mixed opinions out there with this particular car/transmission. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionDiffusion Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 150k on the fluid is really a best-case scenario (e.g. highway driving only in cold to moderate temperatures). Like I said earlier, if you just do a pan drain refill you're only going to get out about 1/3 of the fluid. So to do the fluid change properly at 150k you would need to remove a cooler line or use a flush machine to make sure you're getting all the fluid out. Splitting up the fluid changes eliminates this if you want to do your own work. Now even if you aren't going to keep the car until the 150k point there are still benefits to exchanging some of the fluid. Changing the fluid ought to improve the shifting and fuel economy slightly and will be better in the long run for the transmission. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobraman302 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 150k on the fluid is really a best-case scenario (e.g. highway driving only in cold to moderate temperatures). Like I said earlier, if you just do a pan drain refill you're only going to get out about 1/3 of the fluid. So to do the fluid change properly at 150k you would need to remove a cooler line or use a flush machine to make sure you're getting all the fluid out. Splitting up the fluid changes eliminates this if you want to do your own work. Now even if you aren't going to keep the car until the 150k point there are still benefits to exchanging some of the fluid. Changing the fluid ought to improve the shifting and fuel economy slightly and will be better in the long run for the transmission. What about a filter change? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionDiffusion Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 The filter is inside the transmission case, so you can't replace it unless you remove the transmission and open the case. So you don't have to worry about it (lifetime filter). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobraman302 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 The filter is inside the transmission case, so you can't replace it unless you remove the transmission and open the case. So you don't have to worry about it (lifetime filter). Thank you, sir. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionfamily Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Also - service intervals are dependent on where you live... Up north here, we go by 48k for trans (30k miles), and 96k for coolant (60k miles). Keep in mind a couple of things - 1) Your engine and transmission are the two most expensive pieces of your car, so you probably want to take care of them and 2) Ford is very much in the business of selling parts, so if you want to wait till 150k miles to do your trans service, and your vehicle is LONG off warranty, be my guest... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davevinyard@juno.com Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I have a FWD 10 sport w/79000, trans is whining but shifting seems normal. I cannot find definitive information on fluid type for this car. Does anyone know the type from experience or training. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangster Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Right from the manual (you have the AISIN F21 transmission) Motorcraft Premium Automatic Transmission Fluid XT-8-QAW / WSS-M2C924-A -- Others here have used the Toyota T-IV fluid Others here have used Mobil ATF 3309 (the specs/approval list shows WSS-M2C924-A which is what you need) https://mobiloil.com/en/automatic-transmission-fluid/3309-atf I found the Motorcraft version for close to the same price as the T-IV fluid, harder to find Mobil 3309 in less than 6 or 12 bottle cases. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davevinyard@juno.com Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Thanks for information Bangster, I thought this was right but received info stating that 2wheel drive was built with a different trans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 The owners manual makes no distinctions between the FWD and AWD versions in terms of fluid requirements. If you don't have an OM, you can download one here. If you've got noticeable whining in all gears, it usually indicates problems with the transmission pump. A fluid change will, hopefully, help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirtanon Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Keep in mind also that ambient temperature can definitely effect the sound that your trans makes. I know that my Fusion's 6F35 trans is not the same as your AISIN trans, but what I say below will likely still apply to your trans.. My trans, despite having 267,000 miles on it, is still normally pretty quiet, with just a slight hum during normal operation. However, with overnight temps in Phoenix dropping down into the low 30's / upper 20's, I've notice that when I go out in the morning to head off to work, the trans has a much more noticeable, fairly loud hum when I first start the car and for about 5-10 minutes, gradually quieting down as it warms up. In your Fusion, is the hum noticeable at all times, or just when it's cold? Otherwise, I agree that if you've never changed the fluid before, a fluid change will hopefully help. Edited January 2, 2019 by sirtanon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davevinyard@juno.com Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Thanks for information on whining possibilities, Mine whines at all times with different pitches at gear change and different speeds. Seems I also have a vibration at idle when in gear. I have considered trans mount as culprit for vibration, will crawl under and visually inspect when I change fluid. Plan to do drain and replace a couple times. I ordered ATF 3309 off amazon today as suggested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry12 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) On 6/7/2013 at 7:55 AM, Cobraman302 said: Thank you, sir. So you are saying you have to pull the Trans out of the vehicle to change the trans filter ? If that is true then that is messed up big time. Edited January 22, 2019 by jerry12 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangster Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Pretty common on most modern FWD transmissions. The FNR5 did have a replaceable filter, but the CD4E, AWF21, 6R35/55 all do not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drolds1 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, jerry12 said: So you are saying you have to pull the Trans out of the vehicle to change the trans filter ? If that is true then that is messed up big time. 1 hour ago, bangster said: Pretty common on most modern FWD transmissions. The FNR5 did have a replaceable filter, but the CD4E, AWF21, 6R35/55 all do not. It's not a regular maintenance item, as pointed out above. If the trans has to come out for some other reason, then the filter gets changed. If the filter is clogged, then the trans is toast anyway and it's going to have to come out for repair/replacement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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